Commands from God and his general level of interaction in the modern age

This reminds me of a question posed by a philosopher of mine a while back.First day of class, he gave out a paper handout to everyone. What was on there was something like the following:You are walking in the park when you suddenly hear a voice in the sky telling you that you must buy a gun, go to New York city, and kill as many people as you can because it has become a sinful city. What do you do?Someone raised his hand and answered that he would do it immediately because he trusts god with all his heart.This guy happens to be the president of the christian student group on campus.That little comment by that guy made me aware just how scary christians are, knowing that they could turn and kill my family anytime they think god is commanding them to. It also made me realize just how idiotic christians are, not being able to question their own sanity. For all we know, the voice could have been part of our schizophrenic hallucinations, a possibility that the guy never considered.

First of all, I'm not your friend. I would never be friend with someone who hate rather than love. Secondly, it's not a tyrade. Consider it a first step to my vengence upon christianity. Because I was more timid at the time. Back then, I was still under the impression that christians love, not hate. Haha. I used to make excuses for people like him and you. Well, I grew up and realized that trying to reason with a christian is like talking to a rock, just not worth it. Good for you. Continue and have your faith and hate. Sure, burning people because they're supposedly witches is suppose to be loving them, right? How about beating them to death and errecting a monument conmemorating their supposed entrance to hell?I am through with agreeing to disagree. Until you christians clean up your act, you need to watch your back for me.ABEMy apology for that last sentence there.This message has been edited by GAW-Snow, 08-28-2005 09:03 PM

I got out my bible, look at Acts 5, and lo and behold!

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1Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet.

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3Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."

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5When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

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7About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?"

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"Yes," she said, "that is the price."

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9Peter said to her, "How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."

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10At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

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Before you say that god didn't kill those two people, let me ask you this. Did they just magically die or did god break one of his commandments?

Sorry. I've thought about this a lot and I came to the realization that if some christians can be angry, hostile, and rant a lot, why can't some of us non-christians do it too? We can't just sit back and watch them keep pushing our rights back and back. Might as well fight fire with fire. No logic or reason needed. They rant, I rant.

But Phat said that god doesn't go against his own commandments. You are saying that it's ok for god to go against his own commandments, right? However, it would seem that you are saying that god doesn't order men to disobey his commandments, right?Numbers 31: 31-40

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31And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.

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32And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,

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33And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,

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34And threescore and one thousand asses,

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35And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

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36And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:

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37And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.

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38And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve.

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39And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one.

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40And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.

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Ok, let's take a look at the new testament.Mathew 10:35

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35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

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I think it's obvious what commandment I am referring to.

No, but when was the last time you heard a christian organization trying to defend gay rights? As far as I know, only 1 church have officially said anything regarding the matter.I do realize that the hateful ones are the minority. The thing is they are loud. Isn't it time the quiet majority stand up and say something rather than continuing with their pattern of letting whoever that are the victims to fend for themselves?

Your very existence is an abomination (this is the not so serious me talking). The question is how can YOU be so ignorant? Oh yeah, you're an angry teenager who needs time to catch up with reality.In my case, you can thank your christian buddies for it. Nope, but christians seem to be trying to go the opposite direction. The thing is if you do hate you probably either doesn't realize that it is hate or that you rationalize to yourself that it is not hate.

I'm not just frustrated with the gay rights issue. I'm frustrated at the fact that christians just don't learn. They used to go to other places and exterminate cultures different then them. They used to declare science as plasphemy. They used to burn witches and almost wiped out the cat population of Europe. They used to go on crusades, sacking Constantinople when they were driven from the middle east. They used to enslave other peoples and justify it with "we are helping them by converting them..." It is truly amazing that after 2 thousand years of atrocities they haven't learned a thing, that they are not perfect and that their truth is not necessarily THE TRUTH.Sure, we can be civil and patient with them, but is it going to get us anywhere? While I have sworn to protect with my life their right to freedom of worship, even though I don't believe in their god, they conspire and actively seek out various ways to curb my rights, eliminate true science from the classroom and put in its place christian doctrine, etc.Just look at the US history alone. The overwhelming majority of groups of people who were opposed to social changes for the better were christian groups. They even pointed out biblical passages to block women's right to vote.It's like hitting your neighbor's head with a hammer, denying the fact that it hurt to be hit in the head. After your neighbor have shown you that it does hurt, you proceed to hit him in the shoulder with another hammer, claiming that the head was different and that this time the shoulder shouldn't hurt. After several cycles like this, you still think that you're not hurting him by kicking him in the crotch.Rather than trying to show you each time that the head hurts, then the shoulder hurts, then the arm hurts, etc., the more effective way for the neighbor to deal with this is to kick you in the butt. Either that or to show you that people are people and it hurts everytime you hit a person with a hammer.Christians just can't understand that it hurts.

Ok, let me rephrase what I said. How about we fight a flame thrower with either our own flame thrower or a semi-automatic? Sure, talking to the one holding the flame thrower might turn out to be better, but there's always a big chance you'd end up being toast, especially if the person holding the flame thrower hears voices and he thinks it's from god.