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riVeRraT
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Message 28 of 54 (141369)
09-10-2004 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by nator
09-09-2004 10:14 AM


Holy crap!
I never realized the lyrics of that song.
sideline, there is no such thing as Christian music, only lyrics.

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riVeRraT
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Message 29 of 54 (141370)
09-10-2004 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
09-03-2004 12:21 AM


The more I study the bible, the I realize that this whole thing is about the conflict between God and Satan.
Satan's fate is sealed already. They exsist in a demension without time, so his choices have been made. We as humans must go through time to witness his fate. The bible tells us this. We have only 2 choices as we go through life, to side with God, or to side with the devil.
To pray for Satan, or for an angel is useless. Whats even worse is to pray to, or for a saint, that is dead already. Jesus said we are all saints, lets pray for the ones who are alive, and need it.

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riVeRraT
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Message 37 of 54 (141458)
09-10-2004 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by lfen
09-10-2004 11:26 AM


No, Satan exsists on a plane simliar to God's if not the same. When he created it all, he was generous enough to give us all free will, including satan. So Satan's choice could have been at, or in a time, or without time, so we can't understand it. However it was made, and in the end, we will be victorious.
So life is all about choices, you should know that, you choose a non-revealed religion. Every single thing we could possibly think about is related to whether it is for God's glory or not, good or bad. You cannot make a descion without including this. Clearly evidence of of the battle between God and Satan. Even though its subjective, it is overwhelming.
When I say the whole thing, I am refering to our life after the fall.

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riVeRraT
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Message 42 of 54 (141564)
09-11-2004 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Phat
09-11-2004 5:50 AM


Re: Flight 93 In Rememberance
I am not exactly sure why you have made this knowledge known to us in a response to what I said. But I will give you my thoughts.
They cleary were faced with a decision between good and bad. Even thought the decision included their own death possibly. It was a not a gaurantied death, but a risk worth taking knowing what they knew. I definatly would have done the same thing in a heart beat.
Were the terrorists and the passengers who chose to give their lives worshipping the same God?
Yes they were. They just weren't following God they way they were supposed to. This is niether God's fault, or the bibles, or the Koran. It was cleary the fault of man, and his weakness for Satan's will.

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riVeRraT
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Message 45 of 54 (141646)
09-11-2004 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by ramoss
09-11-2004 2:11 PM


Re: Flight 93 In Rememberance
Prove it.
This is a comment from someone who doesn't even now what the bible means, or what the word repent is.
Your ignorance of God, does not give you a right to claim there is none.
You can say that you don't believe if you wish.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 49 of 54 (142160)
09-13-2004 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by ramoss
09-13-2004 5:01 PM


Re: Flight 93 In Rememberance
Sure!
Since you won't prove that there is not, I will have to prove there is.
Every single thing in life can be related to good, or bad.
Show me a concept, or decision that doesn't relate to either good or bad. You must use this concept in context.
This is overwhelming evidence of God vs. Satan.
So go ahead, show me one thought that cannot relate to this.

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