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Author Topic:   Gnostic timeline reversed?
jar
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Message 29 of 82 (151951)
10-22-2004 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by SirPimpsalot
10-22-2004 10:58 AM


Re: uh...
I don't know where you got this from, but the Romans held many various councils (Council of Nicea comes to mine) to decide what was going to be official church theology and official church canon..
But that was around 320AD, so much went before. Even then, there was no firm agreement. If you look, there is still no single canon today. For example, the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian Church, one of the oldest of the Christian churches, has two canon, a smaller one that has the same 27 books and a larger one that includes 8 additional books. The Syrian Canon excludes 2 nd. Peter, John 2 & 3 and all of Revelations.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 37 of 82 (152099)
10-22-2004 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by SirPimpsalot
10-22-2004 11:23 AM


Re: uh...
Actually, parts of the Gnostic writings are included in every canon. If you look at the history of Marcion, one of the most significat of the Gnostic leaders after Cedro, his canon was built arount the Pauline Epistles and Luke. The big issue was that during his redaction, he eliminated as many references to the OT as possible. In fact, many of the modern conservative Christian Sects, particularly many of the more fundamental ones, follow a very gnostic tradition.
They see the Pauline Epistles, the secret knowledge found in Revelations, and the concept that the GOD of the OT is unknowable as part of their faith base. They believe that there is secret knowledge found in such works, known only to the faithful, only to the few saved, that is unavailable to the masses.

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jar
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Message 43 of 82 (152248)
10-23-2004 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 7:55 AM


Re: uh...
Again, you are simply evading many of the issues by dancing around them.
Gnostics were Christians.
If you research the Gnostic canon you will find the Pauline Epistles and Luke were included.
Gnostics were very much a part of the early church, some even Bishops.
The difference was not in the writings themselves but in the underlying theology, the interpretations. The Gnostics used and accepted many, most even, of the books of the New Testament.
The fact that you fail to see the connections does not mean they are not there.
but my theology is pure...
That is exactly the answer that a Gnostic would make.

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