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Amlodhi
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Message 80 of 82 (194457)
03-25-2005 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by RustyShackelford
11-05-2004 11:09 PM


Re: Who wrote first????
quote:
Originally posted by RustyShackelford
You guys really need to stop swallowing the BS your philosophy professors feeds you whole.......once again, I flipped open my Bible to Mark, and, once again, I didn't have to get outside of the first chapter to prove this claim incorrect.......in fact, I didn't even have to get out of the first VERSE.......
Mark 1:1. "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."
Hello RustyShackelford,
I don't intend, at this point, to argue the claim made here one way or the other. But, as it happens, the example you provided above is one of those places where a bit more care should be taken.
Although the phrase, "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God." is found in the majority of our extant manuscripts, there are a number of early important witnesses that lack the (possibly appended) phrase, "the Son of God ".
Early manuscript witnesses that lack the "the Son of God " phrase include Sinaiticus, O, 28c, 1555, syr(p) arm geo, and Origen (both in his commentary written in Alexandria and in Contra Celsum).
As Bart Ehrman remarks, ". . . this is not a confluence of witnesses to be trifled with."
The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture, Bart D.Ehrman, pgg. 72-73, Oxford Univ. Press, New York/Oxford, 1993.
So, as far as your example goes, the "Son of God" inclusion in Mark 1:1 holds somewhat less than a 100% guarantee of being original.
IMO, and based on this same type of study regarding much of the early manuscript evidence, there is a good argument to be made for the foremost adoptionist position; (i.e., that Jesus was originally thought to have been adopted as the Son of God at his baptism).
Just thought I'd mention it,
Amlodhi

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Amlodhi
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Message 82 of 82 (194460)
03-25-2005 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by AdminJar
03-25-2005 2:03 PM


Re: Rusty like Evis has left the building
quote:
Originally posted by AdminJar
Rusty was banned long ago so don't expect an early answer.
Hi Jar,
Thanks for the note. I've been away for awhile and wasn't checking the posting date information.
Nevertheless, my post doesn't really require an answer and it won't hurt to have an alternate perspective available to the lurking reader.
Thanks again,
Amlodhi

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