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Rei
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Message 14 of 50 (58186)
09-27-2003 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Raha
09-27-2003 1:14 PM


Over in this thread:
http://EvC Forum: How can we be possibly be happy in Heaven? -->EvC Forum: How can we be possibly be happy in Heaven?
I discuss the appearences of Satan throughout the bible - his curious absence early on, how when he first appears, it's in the retelling of an earlier story, in which God had done something evil (and now was replaced by Satan), and the evolution of Satan in relation to the history of the Israelites.
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Rei
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Message 18 of 50 (58231)
09-27-2003 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Prozacman
09-27-2003 3:01 PM


YHVH or Elohim
YHVH or is it Elohim? Good question. There are many names for God in the OT, and if you're aware of them, it gives a really good insight into the minds of the people at the time. First off, the -im suffix inicates a plural noun (seraph -> seraphim, cherub->cherubim, etc) - so, this really reads "Gods"; however, since he has become one God, they now declare this to be a rare exception. The fact that it was multiple gods is reinforced by God speaking in plurals ("we" will do something, they will be like "us", etc).
Also, if you watch the names, some names for God turn into names for evil gods - for example, ba'al, which means (if I recall correctly) "master" (or is it "almighty"? I always get it confused with "adonai"), who later became one of the more despised deities. There are also lots of other names used, and to further it, they're regional, and sometimes those regions are seen as enemies to the authors of a given book.
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Rei
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Message 20 of 50 (58242)
09-27-2003 9:28 PM
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09-27-2003 9:11 PM


Re: YHVH or Elohim
Thanks There's too many names of God to keep track of easily... I should write them all down instead of having to either look them up or do them from memory every time I need to reference them.
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Rei
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Message 40 of 50 (58801)
09-30-2003 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Prozacman
09-30-2003 3:48 PM


Well, Moses's name is spelled Mem-Shin-He (M-S/Sh-H - "Moseh" or "Mosheh"):
Sounds pretty close to "mese" to me. If you can get a specific pronunciation and meaning, that would be great. According to the bible, the pharaoh's daughter named him Moses because she drew him out of the water (it supposedly sounds similar to a Hebrew term meaning "to draw out"). Rather odd that an Egyptian pharaoh's daughter would use a Hebrew name...
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