Noah's Flood Came Down. It's Goin Back Up!!

True, but it's hardly global either, now is it? Even if it's getting hotter and dryer in the southern hemisphere, that just means it's getting more humid in the northern. Hence, record rain/snowfall in a lot of places that have never had that. Not to lower itself, to slow itself. We'll cover that in a bit. Actually, since gravity constitutes the bulk of your inference it's important to get this right, so we're going to stick with this until we feel you've grasped it. don't worry; I have the time.A spaceship in orbit experiences as much gravitational tug as anything on the surface of the earth. Got that? It sounds weird, and contrary to "common sense" and popular depictions of space travel, but it's true. Being high up doesn't significantly reduce the Earth's gravitational tug. You have to be out beyond the orbit of the moon (some nearly 200,000 miles) before gravity is really weakened.If you think about it, you already know this is true. That's why spaceships and satellites continue to orbit around the earth in a circle instead of shooting out in a straight line into deep space.Ok, so gravity maintains as much of a pull on the spaceship in orbit as it does on the spaceship on the launch pad. What then keeps it up? Its intense speed. What maintains its speed? Inertia (the tendancy for an object in motion to remain in motion) and the lack of air friction outside the earth's atmosphere. This is stuff I covered several posts ago but you really don't show signs of having understood it.You could orbit the Earth at a mile above the surface if there wasn't air friction to slow you down, because you'd have to maintain a speed of only about 8-9 miles a second. When there's no air, there's nothing to slow you down, so you don't have to expend fuel to maintain speed.As for the leaving orbit, let me try to explain - I'm on a ship in orbit with the Earth whirling directly below me. How do I get back home? Not by firing my engines above me (pushing me down), but by firing them in front of me, to slow me down. As I lose speed my orbit decends (faster speeds mean higher orbits) until I hit the atmosphere, which slows me down even further (and heats me up, which is why I have all those heat-resistant re-entry tiles all over the bottom of my ship).Are you getting this yet? Let me try and summarize:Within the distance we're talking about, height above the earth does not decrease the earth's gravitational attraction. Spaceships are held up in orbit by intense speed, not by a weakening of gravity at that height. Therefore the height of the water vapor has nothing to do with how gravity pulls on it. Therefore you're very wrong about how much water the atmosphere can hold at reasonable temperatures.Once more, just to be sure - how high you go has nothing at all to do with how much gravity pulls on you. Gravity pulls the same on a spaceship in orbit as on a spaceship parked in a hanger. Is this clear yet? If you're doing science, there's no way (or reason) to factor in the activites of two men who can do something that is impossible according to science. It's just not possible, so why is it relevant to a scientific discussion? I totally disagree. But I think this is a topic for another thread - if you'd like to start it. I mean, the evidence for your view is only one book - the bible. The evidence for ours fills a vast array of books, journals, and web pages, representing maybe 100 or 1000 times as much data as contained in your bible. By just that measure alone we have way more data.And the supernatural has never been shown to exist. Every time it's tested it turns out to be wishful thinking, response bias, hallucination, or even simple fraud. I'll freely admit to my ignorance. I'll take your word for it that the context doesn't support my interpretation as well as it may yours. But you didn't provide the context, did you? You provided just that line as support. And my interpretation is as well supported by that one line as your interpretation.I don't think that bodes well for prophecy. We can't even agree on what that statement is a prophecy of.

No, it's a genuine mistake by Christians to equate trust and faith, but they aren't the same.Trust is belief in someone or something because they've never let you down before. (Unless you regularly trust people that continually lie to you.)Faith is belief in someone or something in spite of them letting you down.I'm going to guess that God has not answered every single one of your prayers. You ahve prayed for things and not recieved them, yes? But you still have faith in god. Would you trust a bridge that collapsed the last time you drove over it?They're two different things. You may trust god, and have faith in bridges, but those are different things from your faith in god and your trust in bridges. As for definitions, you might want to look those up before you shoot your mouth off about them. Most of the links I find are ones that debunk those artifacts. NO, IT DOESN'T!That's what we're trying to tell you. Gravity doesn't stop working because you're incrementally higher from the earth. They're talking about local changes in barometric pressure. Any increase locally means there's a decrease somewhere else. The global pressure doesn't change. (Barometric pressure is not the same as atmospheric pressure because the two are caused by different things.)Here's a thought experiment. Stand on two bathroom scales, a foot on each one. Lean to one side. Your weight goes up on that scale. Does that mean you weigh more? Of course not - it's simply a local change. Your "global" weight remains the same. I don't even understand your point here, and I don't think you do either. Atmospheric pressure isn't exerted on the atmosphere, it's exerted by the atmosphere on things that are in the atmosphere. Again, these basic errors don't bode well for your ability to debate atmospheric change. What, like Mexico? Or Florida? Where are you talking about? The warmer it is year-round, the more disease and parasites there are. Then why did Noah and the other pre-flood people keep goats and sheep and cattle as livestock?

No one's disputing this. It's just that the amount of water you're talking about would take enough heat to sterilize the Earth. Even granting you Ned's 9% reduction in gravitational attraction at that altitude.