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RedVento
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Message 5 of 165 (10466)
05-28-2002 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by TrueCreation
05-27-2002 1:08 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
Contary to Quetzals input
it is the result of diverging cultures and isolated populations as generations pass and cultural biases and beliefs develop.

One question.. If that is the case how do you explain the existance of religions that predate the flood that are still around today?(Buddism & Taoism for example)

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RedVento
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Message 7 of 165 (10478)
05-28-2002 12:19 PM
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05-28-2002 12:03 PM


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Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Another question... How do you know that Buddism and Taoism predate the flood?
Well I did a quick search to find out IF they did predate the flood, and cannot say they did, except for possible hinduism which originated 4000 BCE to 2200 BCE.. however the cultures that fostered these religions(Indian, Chinese) do predate the flood and as far as I know there is no mention of Judeism in their cultures after the "flood." So the question I should have asked is.. How do you explain pre flood culture and peoples that have not changed significantly directly pre-flood and directly post flood, or that there is no significant gap in cultures while the planet was being repopulated. I guess my real question is this.. how can I be expected to believe that the earth was repopulated by Noah and his family after an event that destroyed all life on the planet other than those chosen to survive on the Ark. That this select few then were able to repopulate the earth so quickly and still manage to diversify to the point that we now have 3 unique looking humans(Forgive the following):Black, White, Yellow, all with unique physical traits, from very different geographic locales.
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RedVento
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Message 9 of 165 (10490)
05-28-2002 2:05 PM
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05-28-2002 1:00 PM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Allow me then to rephrase my question. How do you know that the Indian and Chinese cultures predate the flood?
Archeoligical records.
http://hawk.hama-med.ac.jp/dbk/chnpyramid.html has some interesting information about chinese pyramids and burial mounds, and links to more articles.
It is a bit harder to find stuff about India since I keep getting references to Indians and Indiana.. but I will keep digging.. its a slow day.

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RedVento
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Message 11 of 165 (10496)
05-28-2002 2:59 PM
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05-28-2002 2:17 PM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
The link you provided merely presented some dates without proving their validity.
Ok, check this one http://www.elore.com/Astrology/History/early.htm
It talks about the history of Astronomy.. I am not sure what you are looking for in terms of "validity" since I can say the same thing about the bible.. All it is is a bunch of stories, where is the validating evidence.. At least the pyramids of china can be carbon dated, the bible has to be taken at its word..

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RedVento
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Message 17 of 165 (10558)
05-29-2002 10:32 AM
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05-28-2002 10:31 PM


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Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
I may get to that eventually. Right now I am merely curious as to why our good friend is so sure that certain cultures predate the flood.
Well to get definitive evidence I will need the timeframe of the "flood" so I can get you the evidence you require. Unless you want me to use your own words... "I will get to that eventually" in the mean time, like you, I will just try to impose my will with words..

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RedVento
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Message 22 of 165 (10635)
05-30-2002 10:19 AM


I will try to amass some links relating to the history of China.
http://133.1.96.43/~seke/tsaou/romanize/eraname.html <-- found.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+cn0013) From the US Army Handbook on China
http://members.aol.com/Donnclass/Chinalife.html#XIA <-- kids)
http://www.chinavoc.com/history/index.asp has a number of links to peruse about the history of China.
However I can see the reply already.. You see no evidence, nothing to back up the claims. Which can be said for your date of the "flood" by the way. I am not sure what you would consider evidence.. Should I call the archeologists named and get personal interviews? Should I fly around the world examining the sites myself? Tell me what you need so that you are convinced that there was life in China before and after the flood.. Or life anywhere other than the locations in the bible for that matter...

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