You'll notice from WS's reply that one of the results of these discussions (if the creo stays around to actually consider what is known) is the conclusion that we may actually observe all these strong clues about the time spans and the nature of life on earth BUT these are simply how God made it all appear (light in transit etc.)
This has the unfortunate theological consequence of making that particular God out to be a malicious liar. The Norse named that God Loki. It seems many so called Christians like WS above actually worship Loki but don't know it.
This is one of the few end points of any of these discussions.
Another is the "thousands and thousands of scientists are lying/incompetant.
These are the positions that these people are willing to offer as "reasonable".
It is fun to watch and amusing to point them out to friends.