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Did Jesus lie ?

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ringo
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10-12-2006 11:44 AM 		Reply to: Message 59 by riVeRraT
10-12-2006 10:11 AM

Re: this generation
riVeRraT writes:
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If GM decided to produce the camaro (oh I hope so) for the next 1500 years using the same frame, it would be considered a generation.
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No, it would not. Car makers are constantly talking about "the next generation of fuel injection technology", "the next generation of aerodynamic body design", etc.
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A "generation" always refers to a less-than-infinite period of time. The word "generation" is used specifically to distinguish one period of time from another - e.g. "my generation" as opposed to "my father's generation".
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Your thoughts on Jesus' use of "this generation" make Him look like an idiot rather than a liar.
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10-13-2006 12:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 64 by riVeRraT
10-13-2006 7:54 AM

Re: this generation
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I said if it did not change, then it would be the same generation.
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No you didn't - you said "the same frame". That's one similarity, not "no change". Different generations of Camaros could well be built on the same frame.
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Similarly, the new covenant that Jesus brought is the same "frame" as two thousand years ago, but we are not the same generation.
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Jesus used the phrase "this generation" more than a dozen times in the New Testament. Do yourself a favour and study all of them before you come up with a nonsensical definition of your own.
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10-13-2006 1:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 70 by Terral
10-13-2006 12:49 PM

Re: If Clear We Would Not Be Having This Conversation
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my presentations are given for the ”unbiased’ third party readers seeking ”the truth’ on this topic and NOT for those with an agenda for something else.
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Hmm... I would have thought that your presentations were given for the choir.
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Like it or not, you will get responses from "those with an agenda" - and even from those who just like to argue. The "unbiased third party readers" will base their assessment of your views on how you respond to those "scoffers" and "deny, deny, deniers". If you just want to preach, the "truth-seekers" will see through you pretty quickly.
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10-13-2006 1:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 74 by Terral
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Re: Speak The Truth And Move On
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How long do we argue with the atheist shouting “There is no God!”??
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As long as we argue with the dogmatist shouting, "I have 'the answer'!"
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