riVeRraT writes:
Precisely the point why God had to come and give some kind of justice structure to the current society.
I do not find stoning someone to death for rape a bad idea at all. Call me sick. But when a person gets raped, they are ruined for life. The punishment fits the crime.
The moral of the punishment is....DON'T DO IT!!
What's so bad about that, unless you think rape is ok.
First, in what way is a person who is raped "ruined for life". I am not condoning rape but you indicate that the person who was raped is held accountable for that rape. How is she ruined any more than if she were beaten up?
Second, I think Yaro's point is not that these things are right or wrong according to the times but that the Bible, and God by default, condones those things.
God says it's right for a child of an unwed mother to be kept out of the congregation.
God says it's right for a man who had his genitals damaged to be kept out of the congregation of the Lord. (I wonder who checked for that?)
God condones slavery.
God condones the harsh punishments that are called for in the law.
The God that never changes must surely require us to follow those same requirements now. If He condones and even commands particular behaviors then but considers those behaviors wrong now, then what does that say about objective morals. You argue that morals should be changed based on subjective criteria. Some things are right in a primitive society but no longer are? How relativistic can you get?
I should start a thread, defining morals.
please do.
Was there cancer 5000 years ago?
Judging by the many and varied things that can cause cancer, I would say, yes. If you have some evidence that it did not exist then, I wouldn't mind seeing it...another thread probably.
riVeRraT writes:
Your picture of the scene, and the one I have are very different.
I think if he would have stood in the path between his wife and them, he would have died, and the wife would have been raped anyway.
WOW! If you are married, then you should tell your wife that this is how you will act if similarly threatened. Obviously, you should act in this manner if it is right according to the Bible. The moral: Save yourself at the expense of another so you can have revenge against both the guilty and innocent in the family of those who committed the crime!
You do know the rest of the story...right?
When we develop stuff, its a step by step process, that takes years on end, and sometimes never comes to completion. This is the way of life. This is a law from God. You can't put a formula 1 engine in a model T and expect it to stay together when you step on the gas.
Then right and wrong are actually relative to the situation and the society?
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