Do we need a better concept than species?

I think we just need to drop the term species. I am sure the various professionals on the board will correct me if I am wrong but the ToE does not need a concept of species. Species are just a product of our need to categorize things when it reality they are just a continuous gradient. Lets just forget all this nonsense about trying to show macroevolution. There is no such thing as macroevolution, we are all just living things that produce offspring down the line.

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How very condescending of you.Where it makes sense to use the classification system it should be used. In discussion with ignorant creationists, terms like macro-evolution and species should be avoided because nature does not work in descrete classifications. All it serves is to promote confusion in the already misinformed and allow avenues for argument without basis in reality.This message has been edited by Jazzns, 07-29-2005 02:45 PM

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I should have clarified. I am sure there is a good reason to use species classification in aspects of study but with regards to the definition of evolution or in discussion with creationists it does seem to only hinder rather than help.

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Yes I agree. I mostly said it with regard to how we handle describing evolution. My first introduction to evolution what the whole distinction between micro and macro. These can be really misleading concepts especially with regards to the EvC debate. Lots of useless nitpicking over things that do not represent reality can happen with regards to imporper definitions of these terms which is totally influenced by the definition and concept of species.

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I'll tag this one as innocent ignorance. If you have been here long enough you may have been privy to many of the discussions about how the species lines are far to blurry for you to make such sweeping accusations about my ability to contend with reality. Because of your previous posting behavior I don't feel like digging up all those references simply so you can disregard them like you basically disregard everything anyone else says to you in this forum.Needless to say, you are terribly wrong sir and if you care to be given any credence to the contrary you will need to support it. Show us how all instances of biological reproduction in nature follow the discrete concept of species.

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