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crashfrog
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Message 91 of 138 (51240)
08-19-2003 9:19 PM
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08-19-2003 9:15 PM


Re: re;
Ive been learning about evolution for 3 years straight now and I cant stand the garbage, although I listen so I can debate you guys....
Well, better you debate us than your teacher - unless you're lucky, he/she probably doesn't know any more about the theory than you do.

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DC85
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Message 92 of 138 (51241)
08-19-2003 9:22 PM
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08-19-2003 9:01 PM


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I don't know what dreamland your living in but just by having a creationist as a president doesn't mean anything. This is a DEMOCRACY!
How exactly did that Prove your point? it seemed to prove ours........
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Actually the ones I know generally resent God and would love to prove creationists wrong, just like many evolutionists on this site
The reason for this is because Creationist tell us we are wrong when we are the ones with Evidence! its almost insane.
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Also the fact being misconstrued into myth is an example of a dinosaur bone being called one of a giants, but what about the accounts of full skeletons being found? That occurrence does not apply to that.
Sure it does! someone found a Bone. and stories of Giants where made up to go with it. Do you believe in Greek Myths? The cyclops and other things?If not why believe this? Because Giants are Mentioned in the Bible?

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DC85
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Message 93 of 138 (51242)
08-19-2003 9:24 PM
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08-19-2003 9:15 PM


Re: re;
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When did you go to highschool?
hehe I am only 22 I wasn't in high school to long ago. I got out at 19 and I am now a science student in collage aiming for Paleontology
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crashfrog
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Message 94 of 138 (51243)
08-19-2003 9:24 PM
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08-19-2003 9:01 PM


I dont know what dreamland your living in but just by having a creationist as a president doesnt mean anything. This is a DEMOCRACY!
Yes it is, but the President largely sets American policy. Hence, war in Iraq and tax breaks, which nobody was into until the President told them to.
Maybe you missed it, but the President pushed that bill through about faith-based religous funding? Despite a little thing we like to call the First Amendment? In case you hadn't noticed we seem to have a president these days who feels like he can do whatever he pleases, despite 200 years of precident to the contrary.
Actually the ones I know generally resent God and would love to prove creationists wrong, just like many evolutionists on this site.
You're 14. What biologists do you know?
Also the fact being misconstrued into myth is an example of a dinosaur bone being called one of a giants, but what about the accounts of full skeletons being found? That occurrence does not apply to that.
You haven't given any evidence of full skeletons having been found. You haven't even given an anecdote about full skeletons. (You certainly haven't presented any full skeletons.) Simply put, the "full skeletons" are the kind of natural exaggeration you would expect. They found a bone. They told a story about a skeleton.
Honestly what a world of credulity you live in. If it's in a book, it must be true! Except for science, of course.

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Message 95 of 138 (51245)
08-19-2003 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by crashfrog
08-19-2003 9:18 PM


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Yeah, being forced to learn the facts sucks, huh?
No not really.
What really sucks is having an evolutionist being paid to tell me that evolution is fact like you, and like how you just stated.
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But lucky for you it's obvious you won't learn any biology anyway, so I guess you're safe from evolution. Like water off a duck's back.
Well since your implying I'm ignorant I guess I'll imply I'm not. I'm not oblivious to the facts like it seems you may be. And well since people use my age against me I'll use it as an advantage. Put it this way: Your arguing against a 14 year old and your not convincing me.....................
of anything.
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DC85
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Message 96 of 138 (51246)
08-19-2003 9:31 PM
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08-19-2003 9:27 PM


I was 14 or 15 when I dropped Christianity and Became an Evolutionist. I understood it you don't seem to

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Message 97 of 138 (51247)
08-19-2003 9:35 PM
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08-19-2003 9:24 PM


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Yes it is, but the President largely sets American policy. Hence, war in Iraq and tax breaks, which nobody was into until the President told them to. Maybe you missed it, but the President pushed that bill through about faith-based religous funding? Despite a little thing we like to call the First Amendment? In case you hadn't noticed we seem to have a president these days who feels like he can do whatever he pleases, despite 200 years of precident to the contrary
And yet you fail to reveal why this matters in the world of evolution or creation for that matter.
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You're 14. What biologists do you know?
Once again your using my age against me, maybe I shouldnt have said how old I am. And I know many, from the ones I know on the great internet, to my school teachers.
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You haven't given any evidence of full skeletons having been found. You haven't even given an anecdote about full skeletons. (You certainly haven't presented any full skeletons.) Simply put, the "full skeletons" are the kind of natural exaggeration you would expect. They found a bone. They told a story about a skeleton.
Honestly what a world of credulity you live in. If it's in a book, it must be true! Except for science, of course.
There are many evidences of giants. Some I revealed here and some I didnt that are on many sites I bet you havent even looked at. I'm sorry if I came off with that feeling but I definitely dont believe:"If it's in a book, it must be true!"
Our opinions are obviously conflicting and there is no way to convince us one way or the other.
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Message 98 of 138 (51248)
08-19-2003 9:39 PM
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08-19-2003 9:31 PM


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I was 14 or 15 when I dropped Christianity and Became an Evolutionist. I understood it you don't seem to
Maybe the problem is that you misunderstood. Judging by your mistakes in punctuation and capitalization. Honestly, by your posts you sound like a troubled little kid. No offense.
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Message 99 of 138 (51249)
08-19-2003 9:43 PM
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08-19-2003 9:39 PM


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Maybe the problem is that you misunderstood.
How can you evaluate his understanding when your own understanding is so obviously limited?
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Judging by your mistakes in punctuation and capitalization.
Lol... that's funny!
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Honestly, by your posts you sound like a troubled little kid.
So is that. Ah.... the irony!
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crashfrog
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Message 100 of 138 (51250)
08-19-2003 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Trump won
08-19-2003 9:27 PM


What really sucks is having an evolutionist being paid to tell me that evolution is fact like you, and like how you just stated.
Why? What on earth is so offensive to you about the idea that all species of life on earth are the result of a mechanism of random mutation and natural selection?
Mutations happen. Natural selection happens. This has been proven to give rise to new species that are adapted to their environments. Given that that's the entire theory right there, and that we observe it happening, what about evolution do you think cannot be described as "fact" in the same way that we say gravity is a fact?
Your arguing against a 14 year old and your not convincing me.....................
Well, of course not. Often it takes wisdom to know when you are wrong.
Ok, ok. My bad. We're devolving into insults, so let's back off. You keep talking about the "facts". I'd like to know what you think those are.

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crashfrog
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Message 101 of 138 (51251)
08-19-2003 9:51 PM
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08-19-2003 9:35 PM


There are many evidences of giants. Some I revealed here and some I didnt that are on many sites I bet you havent even looked at. I'm sorry if I came off with that feeling but I definitely dont believe:"If it's in a book, it must be true!"
Our opinions are obviously conflicting and there is no way to convince us one way or the other.
Sure there is. Looking at the data objectively. That's how differences of viewpoint are decided. Remember we're not talking about whether or not Creed is a good band; we're talking about whether or not something existed. If things exist, they leave evidence that everybody can agree on. You've presented anecdotes and a bunch of stories about giant bones.
But you haven't presented a bone! If there's evidence for giants, show me! Don't just talk about it, or talk about other people talking about it. Let's see the giants' bones!

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DC85
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Message 102 of 138 (51252)
08-19-2003 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by crashfrog
08-19-2003 9:51 PM


quote:
Maybe the problem is that you misunderstood. Judging by your mistakes in punctuation and capitalization. Honestly, by your posts you sound like a troubled little kid. No offense.
What does this Have to do with my Knowledge of Evolution? I type fast I make mistakes. Big deal! It doesn't tell you about my Knowledge. Are you good at everything?
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Message 103 of 138 (51253)
08-19-2003 10:08 PM
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08-19-2003 11:35 AM


I copied and enhanced (upped the contrast and brightness, ran it through a 'sharpen' filter) the picture:
Look at the orbit above the right eye. You can clearly see the abrupt difference in texture between the actual bone and whatever it was - clay? - that was used to attach the supposed horns.
That is probably why the picture is shown in false color with low contrast.
You've been snookered.
Hi, could you please send that again ? The picture, or atleast make it available online ? I tried to have a look using Paintshop, but did'nt notice anything.
thanks

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Message 104 of 138 (51255)
08-19-2003 10:15 PM
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08-19-2003 9:48 PM


"Well, of course not. Often it takes wisdom to know when you are wrong"
That sentence is strange coming from you. joking....
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Mutations happen. Natural selection happens. This has been proven to give rise to new species that are adapted to their environments. Given that that's the entire theory right there, and that we observe it happening, what about evolution do you think cannot be described as "fact" in the same way that we say gravity is a fact?
micro-evolution or adaptation is observable not evolution. As I told you before photos are hard to come by, not my fault . On the same note evolution in a species has never been recorded or seen either.
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You keep talking about the "facts". I'd like to know what you think those are.
Good idea, starting when I get that email back for Quetzal. P.S. She emailed me back telling me shes looking into as of this moment for me. But in the meantime I'll search for more evidence.
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Message 105 of 138 (51256)
08-19-2003 10:17 PM
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08-19-2003 10:04 PM


Sorry DC I was joking. I know it was uncalled for.
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