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Author Topic:   How did Evolution produce Symmetry?
Loudmouth
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Message 10 of 73 (62174)
10-22-2003 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Philip
10-22-2003 6:50 AM


Re: Harmony, Symmetry, Proportion
How could random events (or elements) produce harmony, symmetry, and proportion, PER SE?
True, propagations and rebirths (micro-ToE events) should aide somewhat in maintaining these excellencies on biological levels as per your ToE speculators.
How about flatfish. They lose bilateral symmetry during development. Proof of NO DESIGNER, since symmetry is lacking?
Oh, and it might help us if you provide evidence of a designer that is more explanatory than the supposed speculative Theory of Evolution. You could also supply evidence that order and symmetry can not come about due to chance and physical laws.

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Loudmouth
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Message 25 of 73 (62376)
10-23-2003 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Philip
10-23-2003 12:47 AM


Re: Harmony, Symmetry, Proportion
from a previous message of Philip's:
quote:
But speaking PER SE on cosmic excellencies of symmetry, harmony, and proportion does beg (strongly infer) awesome design (ID) to be sure, so that it seems pointless to argue the matter.
So it seems you don't want to argue these points anyway, just assume that there is a designer just from proportions found in the universe. Am I wrong here?
So I will ask in a more congenial manner this time.
1. If symmetry is proof of a designer, is lack of symmetry (see flatfish) proof of no design?
2. Can you give examples of what is designed and what isn't designed with a set of criteria?
3. Can you state the mechanisms by which the designer designed?
4. How does the Theory of Design explain the current species better than the Theory of Evolution?
5. Is it impossible for chance and physical laws to create symmetry and order? One example for chance symmetry and order would be a hurricane which has order and symmetry and comes about due to chance and physical laws.
You don't have to answer all these questions if you don't want to, but these are the questions that come to mind after reading message #5. If this is still too incoherent, let me know and I will try and rephrase.
[This message has been edited by Loudmouth, 10-23-2003]

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