The problem "with that Said", namely "hearing" a "darwinist" 'say' or rather NOT BE ABLE TO SAY IN A WAY THE popular public "hears" means even that if Provine, or in this case Mayr said "to me" BRAD MCFALL (of take any writing of Carl Zimmer for that matter on evolution) (a me who has spent all he can to understand the verbiage and acutal discussion in EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY) UNDER EVEN the topic "The Evolutionary Synthesis as Unfinshised Business" both "Even Wright did not come to grips with the problem of the multiplication of species in his shifting-balance theory, nor with the macroevolutionary problems generated by speciation" and "Despite their tendency to think in terms of phenotypes, they eventually came to view the genotype as a system of gene interaction - that is, they recongized the cohesion of the geneotype - and tended from the very begining to deal with evolution hierarchially." while THE NEXT PARAGRAPH opens with the sentence "BY NO MEANS ARE ALL CURRENT INTRA-DARWINIAN CONTROVERSIES REMNANTS OF THE OLD GENETIST-VERSUS- NATURALIST FEUD." This leaves me completey open to the possiblty that even nothing the evolutionary author could have intended with all this information that it adheres TO ANYTHING at all. It may with a certain "parsing" of the first two quotes I lifted ONLY IF THE FIRST opening paragraph sentence whent UNWRIITEN. BUT I HAD TO GO TO UNIVERSITY TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH NEEDED TO SEE THIS IN PRINT!!
The problem is that there is ONLY a small insular elite community of evolutionary biologists which is like the Plumber Union with respect to form-making. We all need plumbers if we do not want to abort whats in the drain but if it rains in spain we dont want only the plumber on the plane but this enlightend group speaks for ALL of us biologically speaking. SOOOOOO, if it is unfishised, if we dont know how the bones are acutally really articulated, why must I be shunt off to the no man's land of Layzell's go and look biogeography for I can agree with Mayr that speciation uses simultaneous (not Some wacky relativity metaphyics I some times have to press here when you guys arent listening) "geography" and 'genetic changes of population effect'. I have looked at this down to the letter and still some pin points so it must be my turn now. I am not Job. And still most here feel I but produce "verbiage". The thread head simply wanted us to do away with it totally. I guess if I didnt care I would drive to this place as well.
[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 12-01-2003]