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Author Topic:   The Definition and Description of a "Transitional"
Robert Byers
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Message 12 of 110 (127359)
07-24-2004 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
07-22-2004 6:08 PM


I will as a creationist try to deal with this.
But first you must allow me something.
We Don't believe there are transitionals so our defining what they are or look like is,ah,unnatural.
We are told all creatures evolved from one body type to another over great amounts of time.
A deer was, to go back father by father, a rodent like creature and before that something else.
We have elephants, cats, pandas, and millions of years ago thier biological ancesters would be totally different and unrecognizable.
So from that point to this since the process of change happened because of natural selection etc it is concluded that the change of body type must of happened a lot and so fossils of this should be evident. Remembering that fossils are used as the evidence for the conclusions now insisted on.
What is a transition?
Well all or some or any fossils of all the body types between point a and point b.
A long time. Lots of oppourtunity. So many "kinds" must of existed.
Its up to you to show them. Then we can answer if you have proven ancestry or making a guess.

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Robert Byers
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Message 15 of 110 (127844)
07-26-2004 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by nator
07-24-2004 6:00 PM


OK. What would something look like that I hold could never actually of come to pass. HMMMM
The creature must be suitable to survive in its envirorment. And yet be an ancester of a body type that was sucessful in another envirorment. HMMM
This is hard.
External/internal anatomy realignment. Fluffy or not fluffy.
I'm stumped.
There are by defination no intermediate kinds as each is suitable to its place in order to survive.
For example for sure there was no intermediate kind between a tree kangaroo and a kangaroo.
I'm not being resistant. I'm having great trouble presenting what a transition would look like.
I need help perhaps a animal in particular.
Regards Rob

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Robert Byers
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Message 16 of 110 (127847)
07-26-2004 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Loudmouth
07-26-2004 11:47 AM


It is true evolutionists will present transitionals here and there.
BUT when one surveys the whole animal kingdom living now or in the past.
WHERE are the transitions as they must of existed?!
If your right they should be numerous and more in thier connections, or reasonable interpretation that there is a connection, diversity and examples of each turn on ther road.
Yet this is not so and we creationists think we know why.
(Anyone not paying attention because they never existed)
Rob

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