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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 16 of 28 (352813)
09-28-2006 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Argonath
09-21-2006 9:03 AM


These well meaning people have neglected to tell you the simple answer.
We do not know. We know things about the phenomenon we call magnetism but we haven't a clue exactly what it is or how it came to be. For all we know it may have always existed. We keep looking though.

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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 18 of 28 (352879)
09-28-2006 3:28 PM
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09-28-2006 12:26 PM


I have spoken a fact that is true for all of humanity. We do not know. I said nothing about wether or not an answer exists.

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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 20 of 28 (352956)
09-28-2006 7:13 PM
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09-28-2006 4:29 PM


Re: We do know
Okay, I can agree that you don't know. But that's because you are a mysterian. You like to make a mystery out of everything. Thus you are using "know" in your own mystical sense.
I am no such animal.
For the rest of us, cavediver is right. With the ordinary meaning of "know", as used by scientists, we know magnetism very well.
Take a look at the question posed by Argonath. My assesment of the responses was quite accurate as was my statement about what we know. There is nothing mystical about my statements.

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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 22 of 28 (353121)
09-29-2006 12:42 PM
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09-29-2006 11:11 AM


Re: We do know
What remains unknown about magnetism?
What have you read to give you the impression that human knowledge on the subject is lacking?
Basics of Magnetism by Ron Kurtus - Physics Lessons: School for Champions
What is a charge? As in moving charge
What are lines of flux?
I have searched and found the link to be correct.
We know many things about the phenomenon of magnetism but do not know what it is. I have not found a sufficient explanation of what a charge is. I have not found an explanation of exactly what lines of flux represent.
What is particle spin and what causes spin? I have found no answers here.
My point here is an answer to a question is not another question.
The nature of Argonath's question is fundamental
The answer is: Fundamentally, we do not know.

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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 25 of 28 (353144)
09-29-2006 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Son Goku
09-29-2006 12:58 PM


Re: We do know
The charge of an object is the strength of its coupling to the electromagnetic field
This does not answer the question.
Coupling? what dose this mean?
Answering questions with questions.
A visual tool used by Michael Faraday.
What exactly do they represent?
Have you read any texts that deal specifically with the subject?
There are detailed accounts of what electromagnetism is and how magnetism arises out of this force.
What level of explanation would satisfy you?
I have pointed out the nature of this topic.
Aganoth's question has been ignored.
I apreciate your responses and learning a level of understanding of how magnetism works is quite interesting, however it's fundamental cause and how it came into being is the question.
We know many things about it but this we do not know.
If you would answer in the context: "This is what we currently understand" It would be more appropriate however, the condensed answer still is, fundamentally, "we do not know".
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