The Clergy Project

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No equivocation on that statement, unlike the one used by the Discovery Institute, there is no mistaking their intent:

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Their intent is most certainly acceptable and highly commendable to the fundamentalist Christian.What a 'fundamentalist' really is:"The word fundamentalism has to do with a distinctively Christian belief system, the formal definition of which issued from the Niagara Bible Conference of 1895 and consisted of fourteen articles of faith, the first five of these being commonly spoken of as the Five Fundamentals: the divine inspiration of the scriptures and their inerrancy in the original texts; the virgin birth and divinity of Christ; the substitutionary atonement of Christ's death on the cross; the bodily resurrection of Christ from the dead; and the imminence of the Second Advent. These articles of faith were fixed upon by Protestant theologians of significant scholarly accomplishments, and they were intended, not to restore Christianity to its primitive, or fundamental, state, but to shape it to check the apostasy that had advanced with the advance of the nineteenth century."
Excerpt from an essay by Patrick MeehanDenoting the fundamentalist as intolerant, narrow-minded, ignorant - applications nurtured and advanced in academies and newsrooms, is as erroneous as is the belief that the RCC doctrine of the immaculate conception refers to the conception of Christ.The determination that public schools should NOT teach religion of any kind, is a thoughtful conclusion and should be endorsed by every truly fundamentalist Christian. Children should be taught religion in their home, where content and intensity are the parents responsibility - or - by choice, no religion at all. Christianity is accepted by choice, the right to choose is a divine gift, and the right to mess with that choice is not a right.

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Sorry to change it on you. I decided I didn't want to open that can of worms here but I guess it's opened. It's understood in conservative churches that a Christian is one who submits to God's word as the rule of his life. The Bible is God's word and God's word cannot be disputed. My own pastor reiterated this recently, when he said there is no other kind of Christian than a "Bible-believing" Christian, although we use that qualifier a lot in venues like EvC for the sake of discussion because so many claim the title.

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What you are disputing is origin, not evolution.God's word can most certainly be disputed and should be and must be.
"Come let us reason together" - he invites any and all.
Reason is the catalyst, never ever emotion.
The world and all that is in it, is a gift to be explored, to know. I'm fond of jigsaw puzzles, putting the pieces in their proper place until it is a picture - it is our duty to do so with what is beneath, and above, and all around.
Joy!

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"Come let us reason together" - he invites any and all.

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Yes, and if you read that statement in its Biblical context, it is clear that what that means is He is inviting His errant people to reason about their sins, to understand that although their sins are very bad He is a merciful God who will forgive them if they turn from those sins and obey Him. You are apparently reading your own idea of what "reason together" means into the Bible.

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Your definition of Christian is establishing your limits and making them his.'Come let us reason together' - you may be a very bad boy, but I can make it alright........is your limit.But - 'come let us reason together' is an invitation with infinite possibilities as are God's possibilities infinite.The rest of your post also establishes your limits as a Christian, for it 'did not slip the surly bonds of earth to fly where never lark or even eagle flew'.

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A Christian believes at least the basics as described in various creeds and confessions, and is a Bible-believer, the Bible being understood to have been supernaturally transmitted to the prophets by God Himself. All of it. I know this is disputed here, from many angles, so I don't usually get into it.

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This is what it means to you - you need to say that. The concept 'Christian' is a highly personal one - a one on one with Christ to work out the meaning on an individual base, not a collective. That is why the definitions vary among those who ascribe to Christ. There is NO pat answer.You took umbrage with the term 'disputed'. Why do you come here? To debate? Is another application for dispute, which is not always negative.
Good luck to you.

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'Come let us reason together' - you may be a very bad boy, but I can make it alright........is your limit.

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Faith is actually correct in her understanding of that verse.

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While I agree that one should not blindly accept what the authors of the Bible wrote, the verse you used does not support your statement below.

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quote:But - 'come let us reason together' is an invitation with infinite possibilities as are God's possibilities infinite.

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It was a very specific invitation.

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ROFL

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A Christian believes at least the basics as described in various creeds and confessions, and is a Bible-believer

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But not only is there no consensus among those who call themselves "Christians" as to what the basics are, there isn't even agreement over what constitutes Canon.

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But, not only is there no consensus among all who call themselves "Americans" as to what the basics are, there isn't even agreement over how to uniformly interpret the constitution, etc.
It seems no one can figure out that what Christian is, is as defineable as what American is, or Koranist, or - or - or.......

I would ask if citizenship is enough to make an American.I would ask that you look at a fractured country, and I would ask that you look at fractured Christianity to deliberate either definition.I believe you know that citizenship is NOT enough.

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One can ascribe a high status to Jesus and/or his teachings without considering him to be the Saviour/Christ and still be considered a Christian

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Sure you can.
That's the fun of it.

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in that basis one can think whatever one likes about anything a be considered a Christian.

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I can think of myself as Hottentot never ever having been to Hottentotia.

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Is there anyone there who thinks they aren't a Christian? Well I've got news for you..

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What is that news you have? Thank you!

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well...in one sense, definitions are what an individual makes them out to be

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I like your definition of that definition.

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time to cue the "good news" band and warm up the choir

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Didn't you just love the tenor of this statement?(Tenor, the melodic line usually forming the cantus firmus in medieval music) Sweet, eh?