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nator
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Message 57 of 151 (263477)
11-27-2005 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
11-26-2005 12:22 PM


Re: Definition of Christian
quote:
The Bible is God's word and God's word cannot be disputed.
But you yourself havily interpret certain parts of the Bible when it suits you, and take other parts at face value when it suits you.
That is clear for anyone to see. You therefore do the same as any other denomination; you just do it for different passages and come to a different interpretation than others.
for example, you do not take literally the passage in the Bible which indicates that all believers should be able to cure disease by touching the afflicted, handle poisonous snakes without danger, and drink any deadly thing and be completely unharmed, and that these are signs that should indicate to people who the real Christians are. You interpret your way out of the simple, direct reading of this passage.
For some reason, you think it is OK to do this in this instance, but it isn't OK to do this in Genesis.
It's arbitrary and just as interpretive as any other reading of the Bible that differs from yours.
In addition, you have admitted that humans are fallible, and therefore it follows that human perception and interpretation of the Bible is also fallable.
You, and the people you follow, are fallible, and so you might be wrong in youtr interpretation, right?

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nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 58 of 151 (263478)
11-27-2005 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Faith
11-26-2005 7:55 PM


Re: another definition problem
quote:
Sure. Conservative clergy adhere to the Bible as God's own revelation even when it brings them into conflict with the ideas and fashions of the world, including worldly morality and science, while liberal clergy are willing to compromise the Bible with such worldly ideas and fashions, rejecting some parts of it if necessary, reinterpreting parts to fit the world if they can.
So, that means that you follow a liberal interpretation of certain passages of the Bible.
You do interpret parts of the Bible to fit modern ideas. Otherwise, you would advocate slavery and you would believe that all Christians should be able to drink any poison and remain unharmed. You would also believe that a hard firmament into which the stars are "set" is what the sky is made of.
Etcetera.

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nator
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Message 75 of 151 (263723)
11-28-2005 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Lizard Breath
11-27-2005 5:15 PM


Re: Falling away
LB, can you drink any deadly thing without harm, and can you heal disease by laying your hands on a person?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 76 of 151 (263726)
11-28-2005 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by DorfMan
11-28-2005 9:31 AM


Re: Definition of Christian
Isn't an American someone who retains American citizenship?
Isn't that the official, legal definition?

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