The Clergy Project

When accessing the link provided by PaulK in the OP,Page not found - University of Wisconsin Oshkosh University of Wisconsin OshkoshWe find a site that presents its point of view. The site opens with the page that essentially says, here is the information you were seeking.On the other hand, reference the link provided by Faith:
What Conservative Protestants Believe - BeliefnetOn my first visit, I was greeted with some popup about winning a million dollars. On the second visit, the top of the page was inhabited by an ad for Angel Bracelets, with the powerful healing properties of natural gemstones. A link on the left side takes one to "Belief-O-Matic" where even it you don't know your faith, the magical web site does.Could it be that the basic concepts of these two sites and the differences between them provide us with a clue as to the mental state of the site owners?Let’s see, proponents of evolution say, here are the facts. The others say, Oh my God, win a million dollars, wear magical jewelry that will enhance your life.What can we conclude from this bit of information?

Faith,Will you please give me your short and concise defition of liberal clergy and of conservative clergy?Thank you.

What does it mean to be a christian?According to history, it means that if you are not christian, you should be killed. Witness the Inquisitions. Ask the Jews.It means that if you do not live the lifestyle christians preach, you should be killed. Wittness current christian position on homosexuality.Have you actually read your bible. Lets start with exodus? This says if you believe in the christian god, you shall overthrow those who do not. This says that you shall not allow non believers to live where you live. If you are a christian you are obligated to kick me out of your country.This is just a tiny sampling of the hate and intolerance of the bible. To be a christian means to accept, endorse, and carry out this will of your gods. (and yes, the bibles does say there are multiple gods)

I don't agree with that. You picked and referenced the site. To a degree, that does mean you do endorse their message and and along with that, their presentation.Should a good christian site endorse the concept of "Look here, get rich quick!"?Should a good christian site endorse the concept of magical jewelry to make you a healthy and better person?With your link, did you direct us to a site with good christian values or not? I am trying for a yes or no here.

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Truth fears no question.bkelly

That is not what the pope says. The pope is about as christian and one can get, and probably about as conservative as they come. Check the in the new thread I started about Vatican snubs ID.
(edited to fix a typo)This message has been edited by bkelly, 11-28-2005 05:51 PM

Debating how much they need the slapping around might not be productive, regardless of how accurate and fun that might be.

Hello guys,
excuse me for butting in, but,... I don't agree with the takes one to know one concept. For a simple example, consider psychologist and people that have a high level of what has been called emotional intelligence. These people have the ability to understand what motivate people better than most of us and do not have to be a (what-ever) in order to recognize a (what-ever).Whey should this be different with determing if a person is a christian? What is there that a christian detect in a christian that a non christian cannot?

Hello iano,Much as I read your post, I cannot extract the concept: How can a christian detect if another person is christian or not? You say that a non christian cannot, so how can a christian do this? Please make it simple for me.Thanks.

The only inescapable logic I can find is that other that from what a person claims, there is not way a christian can detect if another person is christian. Forget the analogies, if you actually knew of a way, you would state it. I agree, it is indeed quite simple.

Hello jar,Now it seems as through we have come full circle back to he OP. Now that we cannot distinguish between one christian and another, what does this mean for the christians that deny a literalist interpertation of the bible.My interpertation is that those 10,000 clergy are leading the way for christians beginning to realize that liberal interpertation is not valid. This is progress. With luck and nuturing it might spread.