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Phat
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Message 49 of 151 (263434)
11-26-2005 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Faith
11-26-2005 10:52 PM


Re: Definition of Christian
Officially inviting you up to chat, if you can handle the heat! Im not against you, by the way! (Sat. 9:50 pm Denver time)

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Phat
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Message 101 of 151 (264317)
11-29-2005 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by iano
11-29-2005 10:20 AM


Re: Definition of Christian
dorfman writes:
It seems no one can figure out that what Christian is, it's as defineable as what American is, or Koranist, or - or - or.......
well...in one sense, definitions are what an individual makes them out to be. I can say that my car is a horse and call it as such. (It even has horsepower! ) but I always like to consult Noah....Webster, that is!
Websters writes:
def”i”ni”tion \'de-f-"ni-shn\ n 1 : an act of determining or settling 2 : a statement of the meaning of a word or word group; also : the action or process of defining 3 : the action or the power of making definite and clear : clarity, distinctness
funkaloyd writes:
I'm not saying that there's no way to define "Christian", just that Faith's definition is, well, wrong. And to demonstrate that I'm not just fashionably disagreeing with Faith: Jar's definition is wrong, too. One can ascribe a high status to Jesus and/or his teachings without considering him to be the Saviour/Christ and still be considered a Christian, though the wording might not quite fit.
And in the fine tradition of debate, I consider your definition to be wrong. If you don't allow the Spirit to change you, you are not a Christian....the very action of "ascribing high status" to anything or anyone shows that you yourself are still choosing your deities rather than being chosen by them.(Him) For all practical purposes, however, and for the sake of argument, there IS no way to prove or define anything except by common agreement. (common union...communion! Gosh what a concept!
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Phat
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Message 111 of 151 (264719)
12-01-2005 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by iano
12-01-2005 6:44 AM


Re: Definition of Christian
Iano writes:
I would suggest that the best way to know if another is a Christian is to become one yourself.
So how do I know if I am a Christian?
Do I ask God?
Do I ask my Pastor?
Or do I just learn all the catch phrases and buy the Bloodweiser T-shirt? (With the fish)

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Message 115 of 151 (264979)
12-02-2005 7:49 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by iano
12-01-2005 12:59 PM


Re: Definition of Christian
Iano writes:
That the world at large doesn't understand what makes a Christian and therefore has no inside knowledge which would spot the subtle differences that exist between genuine Christian and false ones, then that is a problem for the world. Not the Christian.
How does your statement reconcile itself with the following scripture?
NIV writes:
Matt 5:14-16-- "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
If the world is unable to recognise a Christian, is that a problem for the world at large or is that a problem for the Christian?
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