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Author Topic:   Where do Creationists think the Theory of Evolution comes from?
ICANT
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Message 102 of 109 (391000)
03-22-2007 9:48 PM
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03-22-2007 9:08 PM


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Thanks RAZD:
Looks like you gave me enough to chew on for a couple of months.
So I better get busy studying.
Then I will be back if not sooner.

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ICANT
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Message 104 of 109 (391805)
03-27-2007 2:07 PM
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03-22-2007 9:08 PM


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Don't confuse a single "book" with the complete compilation of all known books.
quote:
"Well, in this case, we've got a relatively complete library. The 'books' are in excellent shape. You can see every page, every word."
Arnold claimed to have the complete library.
And dogs would always still be dogs - whether they evolve wings, tentacles and x-ray vision ... or not.
That sounds like wonder dog the cartoon.
Fun aside I am a farm boy so I know about different breeds of dogs, hogs, cows, chickens. Different types or corn, cotton tobacco tomatoes. So I can understand about different types of forams.
I also know that the most amazing tool we had on the farm was a mule and the only way you could produce one was to cross a jack and a mare. You could not create a new species of mules that could reproduce.
As I have stated in posts I got left out when evolution was supposed to be taught in school as my teachers refused to teach it. It was not that they did not know it they just refused to teach it. This was in the 1950's.
I also stated that I was here reading trying to learn.

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ICANT
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Message 105 of 109 (391806)
03-27-2007 2:23 PM
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First, something like 2.5 billion years passed between the first single cell life and the first multicellular life - as recorded in the fossil record - so evolutionary expectations would be low if expected at all ... Evolution is not driven to become some predetermined end or result, and thus would not think it necessary for these forams to evolve into something walking on land. For evolution they just need to continue to survive and reproduce to be succesful. After 3.5+ billion years of evolution there is not only still single cell life, but single cell life very similar to those first fossils found (cyanobacteria) that are 3.5 billion years old: why should the forams be any different?
Are you stating here that all living life forms came from the first single cell life form?
If so how long did it take that single cell life form to come into existence?
Where did it come from?
What caused it to come into existence?
Remember you are talking to a very old ignorant person when it comes to evolution so keep the answers simple and straight to the point or it will go right over my head. Thanks
One of the best ones is this foram forum, where you can ask questions and have actual professionals in the field(s) answer. They will be happy to load you down with more information than you thought was possible on many somewhat esoteric topics.

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ICANT
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Message 107 of 109 (391922)
03-28-2007 1:46 AM
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03-27-2007 10:19 PM


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We can compare notes and see who is older (which is no barrier to learning) and see where my knowledge is ignorant compared to yours.
I am 67 years old married to the same woman for 50 years come June 3rd. I have a Bible Language Diploma from Florida Baptist College.
I have been studying the Bible for 42 years and learn something every day. I pastor a small Missionary Baptist Church. These things should point you to where I am coming from. I just want to learn all that I can so I can be the best that I can be.
RAZD writes:
Whether there was a single original cell or not is mute at this point -- the evidence cannot tell us this answer, so the best answer is "we don't know"
There is about a billion years from the formation of the earth and the first evidence of life noted above. Where did it come from is a question we don't know - and likely can't know - the answer to due to the problem of destruction of the evidence. What caused it is also anyone's guess at this point - we don't have any evidence of how if formed so it is not possible to define the causes (with evidence).
I want to thank you for being completely honest with me as I was expecting a song and dance. So much for my judgement of character from just reading other posts.
But you have only confirmed what I have believed since I was 12 years old.
I believe that species change over time for many different reasons.
I began to work in the field when I was 7 years old so I was introduced to many things with the animals at a very early age and I observed change.
I was really amused at a pair of Tennessee walking horses we had. A mare and a stallion, He would let her pull her share of the plow until about 3 in the evening then he would pull the heavy weight the rest of the day. All she had to do was keep the trace chains tight.
I gather you live and breath evolution from the posts I read especially the Great Debate. I also believe you have a lot of good qualities that I saw in the articles I read on your site.

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