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Author Topic:   Where do Creationists think the Theory of Evolution comes from?
Yaro
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Message 55 of 109 (262310)
11-22-2005 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Faith
11-21-2005 1:34 PM


...within their given genetic potentials.
See Faith, it's cool and all that you don't agree with the ToE, and you believe the bible is the word of god. But blanket statements like the one I just quoted just make you look foolish.
Stay out of the ToE if you don't like it, but if you are going to step into the scientific realm, you gotta PROVE that there is even such a thing as "within their given genetic potential." So far there is no proof of such a thing it all.
It seems to be an ad hoc argument dreamed up by creationists with no basis in actual reality.

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Yaro
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Message 64 of 109 (262341)
11-22-2005 9:52 AM


I'll adress the topic
Creationism comes from religious beliefs. The Theory of Evolution stems from science.
I would like to emphasise BELIEF. ToE has nothing to do with BELIEF. It's a tentative position based on evidence. Kinda like a detective examining a crime sceen.
He thinks the buttler did it, but then comes DNA evidence, and the buttler is excluded. That sort of thing.
A BELIEF based detective would come to the crime sceen and decalere that the Buttler did it. When the DNA evidence is presented, the detective will reject it and announce that his BELIEF is inspired by the one true god, therefore the buttler had to do it.
Bully for the perp., pitty for the buttler.
If Creationism is true, why would scientists bother to work towards refining and publicising the ToE?
I don't see how this makes sense. How do the two ideas connect? Creationism isn't testable. We can't test for invisble spirits any better than we can test for flying, invisible, pink unicorns in the crab nebula.
Do Creationists believe that the ToE is the result of scientists wishing to further science, some rogue scientists trying to get attention, or the work of Satan trying to steer us away from the teachings of the Bible (or some other reason)?
I think Faith hit it on the head earlier. ToE is perfectly valid. It's the only way to look at the world without bringing in the supernatural.
Since Faith want's to believe the supernatural, to her there are miriad of other magical possibilities. She, of course, only subscribes to one magical creation account. However, her position is just as valid as the Flying Sphagettii monster. They are both just as magical, and just as logicaly valid.
ABE: When one claim holds equal logical weight with an infinity of proposed absurd claims, it holds no weight at all.
If I can put YECism on the same footing as Zeus-ism and Flying Sphagetti monster-ism, you know your position has problems.
This message has been edited by Yaro, 11-22-2005 09:55 AM

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