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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
As it stands there are 2 thoughts on the subject of creation. One being ID and the other being evolution. I just havent found one thing that puts ToE as a valid assumption. There is no explanation of how all of the matter [our Universe] got here. There is no explanation how inanimate matter achieved life. The fossil evidence disproved speciation over long periods of time; in fact it has been all but abandoned for a newer theory or concept called Punctuated Equilibria (PE). PE relies on some mystical process where fish gave birth to birds and dinosaurs gave birth to mammals. There are natural laws of reproduction that invalidate that theory, yet it persists. So far any other explanation has not withstood the test of time. The Bible on the other hand, gives an explanation of all of these, and as time goes on, it becomes more plausible. We know it is possible to travel in space. Some of the "unexplainable" things of the Bible are being explained by science. For instance, science wont acknowledge it but the structure of the DNA molecule indicates an intelligent design for easy manipulation and this would be more plausible for the birth of mammals and birds rather than saying "somehow" dinosaurs laid eggs which gave birth to mammals.
That is ludicrous. Science has been playing with this probability for decades; the result, when achieved, is a sterile offspring; which by the way always looks like at least a combination of the parents. Not going from scales to fur and a two chambered heart to a four chambered one. How can an animal that lays eggs for reproduction suddenly lay an egg that hatches an animal that gives live birth? Science wont even give a feasible explanation; because it is not what happened. ToE was proven false and so will PE. There are hints all over the Bible that when looked into, give it credibility. There are even cave drawings, numbering in the hundreds that show "beings" with what looks like space suits or helmets and some hieroglyphs show someone in what looks like a space ship.
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
I did do research on PE. Since the fossil record did not show a slow steady change as ToE had proposed, but rather a very long period of "stasis", then a vast explosion of speciation, the original theory was scrapped for the new "concept". I understand PE quite well and see it is full of holes. In fact PE is an indication of the probability of ID (possibly even alien intervention when life on earth gets in trouble).
It is ludicrous. To be precise, it's ludicrous nonsense which you made up in your head. It has nothing to do with evolution, as you would know if you had bothered to learn the first damn thing about evolution before shooting your mouth off about it in public.
It has everything to do with how life "is" on this planet. Flip a chromosomal switch and you change something about the organism. "Instant evolution" Edited by AdminPD, : Fixed quote box.
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
Please explain how PE is an indication of alien intervention when life on earth gets in trouble. Don't forget to quote relevant Bible verses. The mechanism of DNA itself is very complex, the how and why is still not understood. It took a lot of "study and invention" to uncover what we know. Both of these are indications of "intelligence". But... once "discovered" it can be manipulated "relatively" easily and "relatively" simply. Looking at the fossil evidence, it doesn't seem to indicate that manipulation took place continually over long periods of time, slowly changing specia through adaptation. Instead, it seems to indicate, as PE asserts, that once a species was established, nothing happened for millions of years, until change was "in order"; for whatever reasons; including a global disaster, that may have killed off the "reigning" specia. Darwin did show that ToE is valid for making changes within a species for its survival.The death of most of the specia on earth "would" open opportunities for the fortunate survivors and allow, if the opportunity existed, for them to increase their numbers exponentially. This exponential growth does not logically lead to the creation of new species. There has to be another mechanism involved. And we are now seeing that chromosomal manipulation shows evidence of being a valid alternative. The longevity gene has been discovered in mice; manipulating it is a matter of turning a gene on or off. (For Biblical reference: Gen 6: 3 where the longevity gene was switched off). Another indication that "alien" intervention is involved is the distribution of chromosomes in different animal species. If it were a development from the simple to the more complex, the number would steadily increase as the new species became more complex. But that is not the case. Aulacantha, a protozoa, has 1600 chromosomes; domestic and wild dogs have 50, 64 and 73 (depending on the species); wild and domestic cattle have 12, 20 and 60 (again depending on the species). Man has 46!! How can ToE account for these anomalies? It can be explained by "gene splicing" to create new species, which would require intelligence and technology. Hence, alien intervention. (Another Biblical reference: Gen. 1: 20, 23 and 24). Edited by ElOne, : I didnt use the proper syntax for quoting text
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
Do you have any proof that we are near "the end", if not then how do you know that this language, at this time is conductive to a correct interpretation? (or a better understood interpretation of meaning Biblical scholars are looking all the time for signs and post them on the web. They are not all going to be these "earth shaking" signs that cannot be mistaken. Some are going to be "subtle". To me the most absurd sign is the one predicting that the lion will lie down with the lamb. Everyone, including me, thought this was going to be an overall change in animal behavior; but not necessarily so. Last year a wildlife photographer in Africa witnessed a female lion that saved a young goat (lamb) when its mother had been killed. The lioness protected the lamb from other lions for about two weeks before she was distracted and the lamb was killed. Everything about this event goes against the natural predator instinct of the lioness. Whether you like it or not it fullfills Scriptural Prophecy.
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
Except of course for the fact that a young goat is a kid not a lamb and the authors of the original story also differentiated between sheep and goats. The Hebrew word interpreted as lamb is hX translitersted Seh given the Strong's number: 7716 OT and makes no "distinction" between sheep or goat, just a member of a flock. Your ignorance is astounding. Atleast if you are going to take a stand on something provide "some" credible evidence. Name calling, ridicule and intimidation are not evidence.
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
How can it not stand up to reason? I used the original Hebrew word and its meaning. You havent shown any evidence to nullify my assertion! Just your unwillingness to accept it. Show some evidence to suport your claim.
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ElOne Junior Member (Idle past 6071 days) Posts: 23 Joined: |
All translations are an "interpretation" of a translation. It is up to the translator to interpret ie choose a word that appears to convey the intended message. Sheep stood in the foreground of mental images because they had a bigger impact on daily life. From sheep comes wool, milk and meat. They were enviromentally sustainable; meaning you can harvest wool and milk and still keep the animal alive. Goats, though important, need to be killed to harvest their warmth.
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