20 years of the Creation/ID science curriculum

Ray originally writes:The experts like Castro, Pol Pot, Tse-Tung, Stalin and Hussein agree: censorship works: the Bible has been banned by Darwinian Judges on the Supreme and Federal court system. They have adjudicated their bias into the Constitution written by Deists, Theists and Christians in the 18th century. Again, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, North Korea and China, like the Supreme Court, have all banned the Bible. What do these facts tell an objective person?Proof of the existence of the superhuman personage of Satan.

FliesOnly in response writes:Seriously dude...you need to get some help...you're disturbingly delusional. I'm beginning to fear for the safety of anyone anywhere near you.

I would just like to point out that you were wrong the first time you said I was an atheist, you were wrong the second time, you were wrong the third time....you were wrong the 20th time......and you're wrong this time. I am a Christian, although I fully expect you to tell me I'm not....again.

Amazingly, they both believe that the TOE is the best explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. They believe it was directed by an intelligent designer but it occurred just the same.

Since you say they are the most correct based on the inane logic that they are opposed by "evolutionists" the most, does this mean that you buy into evolution, speciation and the like? OR Do you think your statements, that macro and micro evolution don't occur, are wrong?

You have shown by these posts that you are the exact opposite of a scientist.

Why should anyone trust anything you have to say on the subject of science? Might as well ask the mice for their opinions on cats.

By the way, microevolution, which apparently everyone else in the world but you accepts because of the evidence, can be readily seen.

Google "ring species" and see what science has found.This is clear evidence not only of microevolution, but also of macroevolution (speciation).Deny the evidence for microevolution all you want, but its right there in front of your face. Just like a lot of the other evidence for the theory of evolution and the rest of science.

In what way has our Constitution been corrupted? I asked you this same question a few posts back and you basically ignored it. Maybe this time you'll provide an answer, yes?

And what the hell does "science will be restored to the classroom one appointment at a time" mean?

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Wait, you don't accept that new species have been observed to emerge?Even though they have been directly observed to have done so in real time, both in the lab and in the field?

I don't care about a pro-evolution author, Ray. Pro-evolution authors don't contribute to research - they write about what others have done. If evolution rested on the opinions of Jared Diamond, I'd dismiss it as handily as your televangelist buddy.Dr. Scott does not have a degree in any field surrounding evolution, and has never practiced science of any kind - he's a televangelist minister, Ray, nothing more. Now, he may be a crazy televangelist who buys his own press, I'm not entirely sure - but he's certainly no authority on evolution.Now, despite my severe doubts as to the quality of Dr. Scott's opinions regarding evolution, you still haven't provided us with his argument. Appeals to Authority and Ad Hominems are logical fallacies, so despite my misgivings, I;m more than willing to give Dr. Scott's words and thoughts a fair shake. In fact, I'm eager to hear the argument you claim falsifies evolution. We're waiting, Ray.This is not me angry or hostile, Ray. This is me laughing most heartily at your insane ravings and televangelist muse. I don't perceive him, or you as a threat to anything other than the pocketbooks of the gullible - and fortunately Dr. Scott is now deceased, so he won't be scamming grandmothers out of their money any time in the near future.Mmmm hmm. So, since you've still refused to provide your actual argument that destroys evolution, you agree that you implicitly concede that you have nothing, and your tirades are nothing more than the sad rantings of a crazed zealot.Either you're too much of a coward to have your argument examined in public, or you simply don't have one, Ray.

If you want the privilege of defining Intelligent Design and deciding who is in and who is out of the Intelligent Design movement, we are the wrong people to argue with. Go convince all the people at the DI that ID is not opposed to evolution in any way....

There's great fear that ID, which is religion, will be forced into public school science classrooms.

Twenty years of ID would bring the USA to a grinding halt in the technological race. We would watch in dismay as the other nations stormed past us while having a good laugh. And all because our kids passed a biology exam with the goddidit answer.