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Buzsaw
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Message 70 of 89 (583146)
09-24-2010 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by jar
09-24-2010 10:41 PM


Re: Visionary Models Of The Alleged Past
Jar, LoL. You obviously disregarded my scientifically motivated statement that disorder is not observed to become orderly in the observeable world. Those beautiful images give glory to the eternal ID designer, Jehovah whose existence is substantially corroborated in the fulfilled propecies, archeological evidence and cultural observations, all of which you and so many sheeple, brainwashed into secularism, refuse to acknowledge.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 73 of 89 (583170)
09-25-2010 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by jar
09-24-2010 11:15 PM


Re: So present the evidence Buz!!!!!!!!!
jar writes:
Buz, I did not disregard your "scientifically motivated statement that disorder is not observed to become orderly in the observeable world"; if you have not noticed every one of those pictures are examples of observing disorder becoming order in the natural world.
Three things; I said, "generally," meaning there are exceptions here and there, but not by and large.
Intelligence and long time beneficial order are not the norm in exceptions.
I fail to see your point in your images. Please, you or someone else, explain. Thanks.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 74 of 89 (583175)
09-25-2010 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by DevilsAdvocate
09-25-2010 8:08 AM


Re: Visionary Models Of The Alleged Past
Thanks, D A. I posted before I noticed yours. I'm off to church but will view and respond later.

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Buzsaw
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Message 77 of 89 (583544)
09-27-2010 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by DevilsAdvocate
09-25-2010 8:39 AM


Re: So present the evidence Buz!!!!!!!!!
DevilsAdvocate writes:
That is why Cavediver and others are asking you to define your terms. Not because they don't know what term's like 'order', 'intelligence' and 'eternity' mean in the colloquial, every-day use of these terms, but because at a scientific, very accurate and precise level of describing reality these terms are so vague that they make absolutely no sense in these contexts.
Cavediver and others, by now, should know what Buz means by these terms, and for that matter, any lay member. The context usually determines the meanings intended. For example, in the science fora, even science buffs may be discussing whether the Universe is an infinite universe or if it is finite. Obviously the context of this question implies the term, infinite not to mean since the singularity event, but the term infinite as even the lay person would understand it.
Btw, I took the time to view a couple of your link videos and scanned some others. I see a lot about matmatical based conclusions. I see all kinds of mystery, like this Turrin (spelling) fellow even regarded as being matmatically inspired by a supernatural entity for enlightment. Well, according to the Biblical record, if such an enlightment from some such entity, goes counter to the Biblical record, it's inspiration likely comes from a demonic entity. These beings are depicted in the Bible as "angels of light."

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 87 of 89 (585079)
10-05-2010 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Dr Adequate
10-02-2010 2:49 AM


Re: Visionary Models Of The Alleged Past
Dr Adequate writes:
Buzsaw writes:
disorder is not observed to become orderly in the observeable world.
But thiis is so obviously untrue that I am baffled as to why you should even try to pretennd that it is true.
I forgot to include the phrase, "by and large," which I usually use when aluding to this. By and large in the real optically observable world it is true and one reason I reject the ToE.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 89 of 89 (585095)
10-05-2010 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by onifre
10-05-2010 5:53 PM


Re: Visionary Models Of The Alleged Past
onifre writes:
By and large? That's how you fixed it?
Laughing you head off doesn't refute a thing. It leaves me one up in the debate.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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