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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Why? Because gay is not natural. Then where did they come from?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Nobody beats the "progressives" for intolerance. You're right, they are intolerant of ... intolerance. Why can't they be more accepting and let everyone be intolerant towards minorities?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Socialist principles involve taking what I have earned Coy, I'm going to arbitrarily assign you an income of $100,000. It's that's more or less than what you make, I apologize. If it's exactly what you make, then I doubt apologize and I brag about my awesome ability. Paris Hilton makes $6,500,000 a year. Does Paris Hilton work 65x harder than you? Is she 65x smarter than you? Producing 65x as much material goods as you? There are people who make a ridiculous amount of money, often because they were related to someone who made a bunch of money and left it to them. The idea that these people should pay LESS in taxes than a factor worker who gets up every morning and trudges to work for a fraction of a fraction of what they make is ridiculous.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
You're a bunch of loud mouthed ignoramuses here who don't know about what he could've taught you and why you don't like him. Here's what Glenn Beck "taught" people:Buy gold from my sponsor at a ridiculous mark up and you can't lose. Except they ALL lost. And the reason we don't like him is because he may have raped and murdered a girl. He has yet to deny it.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
No. One of Beck's sponsors was a gold company. The fact is that anyone who has bought gold over the last decade has made money big time and the end is not in sight. Glenn Beck REGULARLY led people who watched his show to believe that the dollar was going to be worthless, that gold was the only safe place to place their money, and that this one particular gold vendor was the best place to buy gold. That gold vendor was selling gold to Beck's viewers at a huge mark up. Fools Gold: Inside the Glenn Beck Goldline Scheme - The Big PicturePage Not Found: 404 Not Found - CBS News For Glenn Beck's Gold Plated Sponsor, Fresh Scrutiny - ABC News http://mediamatters.org/research/201106300019
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Who would hire the factory worker if it weren't for the rich who invest in factories which hire people? Most factories are not owned by wealthy individuals. They are owned by companies. Most of those companies are traded publicly. In other words, the ultra-rich are not the ones hire those people, the stock holders are.
The rich are already paying about 90% of America's taxes with the poor paying zero. Making up numbers doesn't make you right, it just shows that you're ignorant.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
What in all of this gives someone the right to take at the point of a gun what someone else earns, no matter how it is earned? What I take from your post is that progressives are champions at class envy. This probably goes back to Marx. First off, who has a gun here? Second, you don't have to live in America and pay taxes. You can move to some other country. However, if you want to live here and be protected by our armies, drive on our roads, breath our air, use our energy, etc etc etc, you are expected to pay taxes. Third, I'm sorry that you think that Paris Hilton is classier than you. My point was more about the amount of work and the reward for that work. We do not live in a society that rewards people based on work, or skill, and the rewards our society give out are disproportionate. Paris Hilton makes more money attending a party than you make in a year. Asking her to pay SLIGHTLY MORE in taxes than, let's say a COAL MINER who spends the better part of his life underground pays, is not unreasonable.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
2. I don’t think the law will be very effective in doing much of anything. I think it is redundant. I don’t think homosexuality is covered in elementary school sex ed right now anyway. I see this as nothing more than defining curriculum. Then WHY put it forward as legislation? If you admit that this law does NOTHING to fix any problems (which in turn never existed in the first place), then you admit that the motivation for this law is suspect.
There is a discussion of heterosexual relationships because that is the relationship of Mommy and Daddy, and this is a class for children in grade school about where babies come from. Not all kids are from a home with a mommy and a daddy. Should those kids be barred from school? Should they not be allowed to ask questions? Should they have to *** about their parents so that other kids don't find out about it? Further, the use of terms like "mommy and daddy" is just an attempt by you, like your BUTT FUCKING comment about 2nd graders to try and color the debate. This law is about sex ed in the 8th grade. 13-15 year old.
I think if it’s contextually appropriate, then it is not Orwellian. You need to actually read 1984. The Ministry of Information QUITE LITERALLY struck words it found offensive This law is as Orwellian as any law could possibly be.
I used the analogy that I did because I think the amount of gay children among the general population of children is a small ratio, just as 16year olds in 8th grade. It's the exact same ratio as any other age group.
Not quite, I am advocating that TN can self regulate if they want to. Not if that regulation is in violation of the Constitution.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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Can you think of any reason why some people should pay a higher rate than others that does not involve class envy or Bread and Circuses? I don't know what you mean by "Bread and Circuses", but I will say this. Like it or not, there is a minimum amount of money needed by an individual to survive. So, there is a minimum level at which people can be taxed. If someone makes less than the amount needed to survive, taxing them is unjust. Therefore, there is NO SYSTEM in which everyone pays the same rate. Period. Additionally, we live in a system that rewards capital with capital. Earning $1,000,000 is hard if you start from nothing. Earning $10,000,000 is easy if you start from $1,000,000. As a result, there are enormous mathematical pressures which drive wealth from the many to the few. If the system were left absolutely alone, it would rapidly lead to what we see in Saudi Arabia. A few small families holding 99.99% of the wealth, controlling all the power, and the entire rest of the nation dirt poor and essentially slaves. That's not sustainable. So, in order to keep America as a land of opportunity, those which are gaining the most from our society are asked to help keep our society working. If they don't like it, they are free to leave the US and join some other country.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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The US Constitution has no powers over education, that has always been left to the individual states to deal with. Thus the federal government has no power and authority over education. So long as the State of Tenn doesn't take a single dollar in Federal aid. However, since Tenn is a welfare state, that's not the case, is it?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
That depends on the federal dollars usage. Okay, then I'll modify my statement. "So long as the State of Teen doesn't take a single dollar of Federal aid for any part of their education budget. However, since Tenn is a welfare state, that's not the case, is it?"
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
So - for example - A teacher of history who in response to a question from a student discusses homosexuality in class definitely will not be subject to this law and definitely cannot face consequences resulting from this law? Is this the case? Let's say for argument sake that _legally_ that teacher would not be subject to the law. Does that mean that teachers will still be open to speak the truth? Doubt it. There is a chilling effect brought on by things like this, and teachers are likely to shy away from anything that could put their career at risk. A teacher that gets accused by a parent is likely to be released by the School Board (whether or not it's lawful to do so) and it could be years and lots of money before any court case could prove it unjust. I'm reminded of an Government employee who used the word niggardly in an email and lost his job because of it. The word means "cheap" and has absolutely no relation to the word "nigger" other than being spelled similarly. A completely unjust termination for using a non-offensive word in the correct context. Yet, he lost his job. I don't know if he sued, and if he didn't certainly don't know if he won. I do know this, if I was a federal employee I wouldn't use the word - even if the guy won the case - simply to avoid the hassle. If I were a teacher in Tenn with car payments, a mortgage, a wife and a young child, you can bet I wouldn't dare answer even an honest question for fear that I lose my job, my house, etc. This law is designed to enforce hate through fear.
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