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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Perd writes: This isn't Jar, Whoops, my apologies.
Perd writes: In fact, in the case of Iraq, he [Obama] voted against the AUMF. Errr, perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but Obama wasn't in office yet to vote on the AUMF. There are some thoughts from Obama that he MIGHT have voted for the AUMF:
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quote: My "badgering" of Jar is because he writes ridiculous things like the following (Yeah, yeah, I should just ignore him):
Jar writes:
The German invasion of Poland may not have been legal and whether or not it was moral depended on your point of view.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
CS writes: I don't think I've ever "supported" Obama... Yes, I am aware you vote republican. Since you have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about the Bush Jr. Administration, I guess you have a clear conscience.
CS writes: Your extremely hyperbolic spin-conspiracies are so far off that I just have to go with reality being the opposite by default. Okay, point taken, will work on it, thanks.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
CS writes: How could you possibly be aware of that? Am I mistaken that there was a thread that YOU asserted that you voted republican because you were afraid of what democrats might do?
CS writes: Huh? Who says I have nothing to be embarrased about with that? Too, I didn't vote for Bush so what the fuck are you even talking about? Are you ever right about anything? It was a joke. The winking smile emoticon should have clued you in. Sheesh. Edited by dronester, : No reason given.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Rahvin writes: I remain morally outraged at the use of drone attacks as counter-terrorism tools, though no longer because of arguments of sovereignty (as the Afghani and Pakistani governments have apparently authorized their use Arguments of sovereignty, back on the table . . .
quote: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
quote:The News International: Latest News Breaking, Pakistan News If the Afghani population were given a voice, I suspect they too would want the drones to stop.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Rahvin writes: we would be obligated to stop, else be considered a rogue nation committing an act of war by the international community. Gasp!!! In that event, do you suppose Obama might then be branded a . . . a . . . a . . . war criminal? [Dronester, with wide-eyes, slacked-jaw, just can't believe Rahvin opened up that can of worms]
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
My message Message 306 was about Pakistan. Try again.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Crash writes: Well, it would probably be considered an act of war, but an illegal one? Minnemooseus, NWR, and Rahvin: Crash sways you? Really? . . .
Crash writes: Because terrorists live where it's not illegal to be terrorists! This is just a dumb statement. Maybe the following two examples will highlight his hypocrisy and small-mindedness.
quote: http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/200111--02.htm
quote: Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia Luis Posada Carriles
quote: http://www.chomsky.info/books/hegemony02.htm
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Crash writes: Well, I guess if Noam Chomsky says it, it must be true. Gee, if only I corroborated my post with another source.(cough, cough, Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia. However, let me go check that Official White House website for additional terrorist info) Crash writes: (Also, you didn't come out looking very well, or very honest, after I demonstrated the five different instances where you said something you later claimed not to have ever said.) Wow, talk about song of the desperate! Because you don't have any adequate reply, you reach back into ancient history about your willfull misinterpretation about my Iraqi "embassy" item? (I recall, ALL others refuted your fanciful interpretation, and not ONE person sided with you) Just wow. Song. Of. The. Desperate!
Rahvin writes: Do you have the right to just keep going [raping] because you want to, and her rights to her own body don't matter? Crash writes: I find these rape analogies stupid and insensitive, frankly. I'm not going to respond further to them. Yes, because you, Crashfrog, finds something STUPID and INSENSITVE, are not going to respond further. It burns. It just burns.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Crash writes: I'm struggling to see the relevance of what you posted to the discussion. Yes, I already noted you struggle with a great many of things.
Crash writes: Yes, that's exactly right, since it's only my own responses which I am in control of, and only my own feelings which I can feel. Who else has to find it stupid and insensitive before I'm allowed to ignore it? Whose permission do I need, Dronester? Crash writes: Again, the reason that I'm convincing and you are not is that the things you say are so goddamned stupid, and the things I say are informed by reason and fact. It, continues, to burn.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Crash writes: You asked why we don't send in police to arrest terrorists. Because terrorists live where it's not illegal to be terrorists! The 9/11 plotters lived in Germany. Should we send drones there? The 9/11 plotters also lived in the USA. Should we drone ourselves? Germany shuts 9/11 plotters' mosque in HamburgJust a moment...
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Perd writes: You are very vocal in hating what the Obama administration is doing and has done in Iraq and Afghanistan. Please re-read this thread and the original Obama thread for details. I hate that SENATOR Obama and president Obama (who swore an oath to protect the constitution and its laws) protects Bush Jr from criminal investigation (I have repeatedly wrote about how PRESIDENT Obama intervened in Spain on Bush's account. It doesn't seem to bother any one else).
Perd writes: I also wonder what you would have done differently had you been elected at the time Obama was, inheriting the two wars. No, Obama did not inherit the wars. SENATOR Obama helped create the wars by funding EVERY war vote (the Vietnam war ended simply because congress stopped funding it). And, as a SENATOR, not supporting the articles of impeachment against Bush Jr.
Perd writes: And I wonder what you would do now, that would protect America, In effect, you are offering me the steering wheel AFTER the car has left the cliff. (I suppose I can now at least take my foot off the gas pedal.) Outside of america, the US has no credibility and are seen as immoral and illegal invaders. The UN is not perfect, but it is a better choice. The quicker the changeover the better.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Crash writes: Well, not everybody can have Dennis Kucinich's distinguished record of... hrm, what, exactly? Belief in UFO's, opposition to reproductive freedom, and a cowardly withdrawal from the Senate? Don't forget the hot wife. (Meooow!)
Your other piffle (apparently embraced by others on this forum) has been addressED repeatedly.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Omni writes: But to respond to armed aggression with anything other than our full, effective might is foolishly counterproductive, and, ultimately, does not serve peace. Iraq didn't attack the US. Terrorists, mostly from Saudi Arabia and based in Saudi Arabia attacked the US. And the country of Afghanistan did not attack us. Now, I understand you didn't say Iraq DID attack the US, but you could be explicit and indicate that is WAS immoral and illegal for america to attack Iraq.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Drone writes: the Vietnam war ended simply because congress stopped funding it Crash writes: And there's your reason why Congress will never, ever again attempt to force the President to end a war by defunding it. Huh? Am I misunderstanding? You're saying ending the Vietnam war was BAD?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Rahvin writes: I'm a humanistic utilitarian. Oh no, not the defunct humanistic utilitarian POV! For the mother of god, no Rahvin, no, . . . nooooo.
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