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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Simply asserting that the Jesuits were opposed to the "liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation is NOT evidence of anything, jar, it's just what I called it, a bare assertion.
"Liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation, my foot. They opposed the Protestant Reformation because it got back to the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, a pretty conservative move if you ask me, and threw out the traditions of Rome that were contrary to the true Biblical faith, and their objective was to bring people back to the Pope. Still is. As I just explained to Panda, those terms are Liberal Agenda terms, they mark the university as a liberal university, and the phrase "hate speech" marks your "conservative" Jesuit as a liberal. That's the point I was making. I made it and it stands, your liberal spin notwithstanding. Edited by Faith, : add signatureHe who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined:
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faith writes: I guess liberals don't know they are liberals these days. That should be blatantly obvious to you by now. Media liberals don't know they are liberal. Liberal politicians don't know they are liberal. EVC liberals don't know they are liberal. All they know is that they are not hateful, reactionary, homophobic right wingers.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
Damn. You make me jealous. That is exactly the kind of response I wish I had floating around in my noggin. The logic of it was in bits and pieces and unconnected in my subconscious. This is exactly how I thought but it takes someone who has put all the pieces together in their mind to be able to articulate it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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I don't want to make you jealous, but that was a compliment so thanks. I don't know if you are a Christian or not but if you are, pray God to guide your posts and give you clear thoughts. I do. Not always, unfortunately.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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Name calling is neither Christian nor buddhist or muslim or whatever. It is a human behavior shared by all. Yes indeed. But when someone says '{Do} you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?' what they are asking is is it a trait that is acceptable in Christianity? 'Is it the Christian thing to do?', Not, 'is this behaviour unique to Christians?' Is the reason you did not address the other points I raised (in Message 84) because you have conceded them? Or were they just insufficiently interesting to you?
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
Name calling is neither Christian nor buddhist or muslim or whatever. It is a human behavior shared by all. It has nothing to do with what Christianity is all about. So Matthew 7:12 has nothing to do with what Christianity is all about?
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
I haven't responded to them because there are a plethora of posts addressed to me and actually I only read your first line. I haven't even read the rest of your post. I can only stand to read just so much of your guys posts on here. I just randomly light my eyes on something and I usually can't go very far before I have to respond. That was the case here. As you can see, just one point will go on and on and on and on. Just think what would happen if we engaged on every point you brought up? You guys seem to think I concede points because I don't address them. There are a million such points (hyperbole) directed toward me. You guys get just a few points directed SOLELY at you on a daily basis. Feel fortunate that I responded to you at all.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
That's exactly right. Christianity is all about what God did for us through his Son. It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Simply asserting that the Jesuits were opposed to the "liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation is NOT evidence of anything, jar, it's just what I called it, a bare assertion. Which is a just plain silly thing to say but I can try to educate you. When was the Society of Jesus formed?
"Liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation, my foot. They opposed the Protestant Reformation because it got back to the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, a pretty conservative move if you ask me, and threw out the traditions of Rome that were contrary to the true Biblical faith, and their objective was to bring people back to the Pope. Still is. I'd be glad to try to educate you on the Reformation as well but that is a broad subject and so better in another thread. Start a topic on it and we can explore.
As I just explained to Panda, those terms are Liberal Agenda terms, they mark the university as a liberal university, and the phrase "hate speech" marks your "conservative" Jesuit as a liberal. That's the point I was making. I made it and it stands, your liberal spin notwithstanding. I don't have a Conservative Jesuit and I doubt you can point out where I made such a claim. So to add to the list are you now saying that today's Conservative supports Hate Speech? If so, then I agree with you. You do understand that Jesus would oppose hate speech?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4046 Joined: Member Rating: 7.6
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It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions. ...really? All that stuff about "what you do to the least of these, you do to me," and "turn the other cheek," and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," all that is irrelevant to Christianity?The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds ofvariously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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foreveryoung writes: That's exactly right. Christianity is all about what God did for us through his Son. It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions. That is what I call the "What's in it for ME Christianity". Jesus though spoke constantly about actions, about what his followers and all mankind should do. Have you ever actually read the Bible?
quote: Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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foreveryoung writes: That's exactly right. Christianity is all about what God did for us through his Son. It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions. Do you agree with this, Faith?"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4046 Joined: Member Rating: 7.6
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quote: The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds ofvariously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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foreveryoung writes: I only read your first line. I haven't even read the rest of your post. I can only stand to read just so much of your guys posts on here. I just randomly light my eyes on something and I usually can't go very far before I have to respond. ... Feel fortunate that I responded to you at all. Why are we engaging a poster who neither reads posts nor presents evidence for his position, who neither addresses the topic nor presented any evidence or reasoning for his OP position? Even Maddie responds to others' posts in some tenuously connected way. Anyway, I'm done, and I'd recommend the same to all. I know we've suffered from a shortage of creationist opponents here, but foreveryoung couldn't support himself, let alone a reasoned position. Besides:
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4175 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined:
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I have found that people of faith do not like it when they are shown that their actions go against their belief, they make excuses to cover the fact that they are doing what their faith says not to do.
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' ― Isaac Asimov "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury
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