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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Guns were confiscated from the jews according to a law passed by the german parliament?
Yes
Which of your shoes are colored purple?
So none. Why did you bring them up as tyrannical if in fact they are not?
You should really learn facts about the movie "white men can't jump". Ever hear of Wesley Snipes? The world's men know about steroids. It just wasn't expedient to cut kill chicken by ringing their necks. I bet you have no idea what point I am making do you? Don't care cuz it ain't relevant to the conversation. Now do you want to make a claim that the world did not know about the genocide?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
You don't care because you don't want to know you responded to things I never said and made points that were irrelevant.
I never said the executive orders were tyrannical. I was making the comparison that guns were taken away apart from any laws in both cases. I will have to look into whether or not the confiscation laws were passed by a parliament that was free from hitlers control or not. The world did not know about the genocide occurring in germany; not poland. Thosewere two separate countries in case you didn't know.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
I bet you have no idea what point I am making do you? Maybe Theo does but I sure the hell don't and I'm just an innocent bystander. A rather intelligent and sophisticated wordsmith of a bystander, by the way, who has no idea what point, if any, is so deeply hidden in this missive. Part of the art of communication, FY, is to realize that there is nobody in your head but you so the deeply disguised subtlety you have in mind may not make it across the great divide. With such great effort you just waste electrons. So what is your point?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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I was making the comparison that guns were taken away apart from any laws in both cases.
Show me how the Executive orders are taking guns away?
The world did not know about the genocide occurring in germany; not poland. Thosewere two separate countries in case you didn't know.
Yes they did. Where the camps were located has no bearing on what was known. They were all run by Nazi germany.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined:
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Show me how the Executive orders are taking guns away? Can you purchase any of the guns now mentioned in the executive orders? That is equivalent to taking away your guns in my book. More precisely, it is taking away your right to purchase a particular gun.
Yes they did. Where the camps were located has no bearing on what was known. They were all run by Nazi germany.
They knew about what was going on in poland and austria and other occupied countries. They did not know that jews were being forced out of their homes at gunpoint onto trains to be taken to the east to be exterminated in gas chambers. It was only made known to a few people and the top military leaders of the time make absolutely no mention of the gas chambers in any of their memoirs.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 612 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
My point was that theodoric was both not addressing my points directly and replying to things I never said. It was satire that was mocking how totally irrelevant his remarks were in light of what I had said.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Can you purchase any of the guns now mentioned in the executive orders? That is equivalent to taking away your guns in my book. Well, it's a strange way of putting it. Would you say that the government has taken away your heroin?
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Hi RAZD,
RAZD writes: You are free to believe that, but that doesn't make it true. One of your duties as a citizen is to be a member of society, And I have done that since I received my first gun at age 7, 66 years ago.
RAZD writes: I asked if they had guns, which is what you claimed, Please source where I made such a claim.
RAZD writes: So some lives are more valuable than others. I though you believed in evolution and the survival of the fittest. And yes the life of my wife and myself is worth much more to me than a persons life that has just broke into my house to do either of us harm. If someone was to break into my house which would be a pretty big job in itself I would not think they were entering for tea and crumpets and therefore I would not ask a question before firing my 44 magnum. As I would have no way of knowing what their intentions were or what weapons they might have.
RAZD writes: How did they get free of Mubarek? That was the question Simple, the army did not obey Mubarek's orders and fire on the people. If they had it would have been a lot worse that Syria. Hint: the US was paying the soldiers salary's.
RAZD writes: Word games don't impress me. That was not a word game but a statement of fact.
RAZD writes: Curiously, my epiphany was over 45 years ago, and it was that guns were not needed in my life, not needed to make enduring change for the greater good in our society, not needed for protection against fantasies and fear. I hope you live a long life and never regret your epiphany. BTW do you have an insurance policy of any kind?
RAZD writes: Because there is no rational civilian need for such systems. Where does the second amendment mention anything about rational civilian needs?
RAZD writes: Apparently they already have your vote ... or willing acquiescence to sit fondling your gun while they take over. I don't sit around and fondle my guns. I take them to the range and practice firing them each week so that when our economy crashes which will be very soon. In fact just as soon as the idiots decide to quit buying our bonds as they are worthless and they will never get their principle back we will be in big trouble. Because in a very short time almost 50% of the people will not have money to buy food with. They will get hungry and in this entitlement society that has been fostered they will do what has been praticed several times in the last few month. You know the stories about a bunch of people entering a business grabbing whatever they want and runing out of the stores. When it comes to food it will be a lot worse. Shortly there will be a shortage of everything including gasoline and diesel so it won't be long before you can't buy food at any price as there will not be any on the shelves. Then the farmers won't be able to get diesel to plant crops for the next year and things will take a turn for the worst. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7
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Hi Dr,
Dr Adequate writes: Well, it's a strange way of putting it. Would you say that the government has taken away your heroin? When and where did you have a right to possess heroin? The second amendment does not grant the right or privilage of the people to own guns. It mearly forbids the government from infringing the right that the people already had before the Union was formed. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
And as I understand it, it is supposed to be beneath the expectations of your creed. Matthew 7:21
quote: Added by Edit: Lol!! Faith, you are booing a post consisting of nothing more than a quote of Mathew 7:21. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I though you believed in evolution and the survival of the fittest. The statement above is incredibly poorly thought out. Do you believe in gravity? Does that mean that you seek to flow to the floor like water?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Dr. Adequate writes: Would you say that the government has taken away your heroin? ICANT writes: When and where did you have a right to possess heroin?
Has the government taken away your 5 inch 54? Or is it the case that you never actually had either the gun or a ship to mount it on? That is the context of the question posed by Dr. Adequate. It should be clear that we can substitute any object or substance you don't own, legal or not into the question with the same effect.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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When and where did you have a right to possess heroin? I never said I did. What I asked was: has the government taken away foreveryoung's heroin? Clearly it hasn't, because foreveryoung never had any heroin. (Unless there are some interesting details of foreveryoung's biography to which I am not privy.) It has taken steps to make it hard for him to acquire heroin, but it hasn't taken his heroin away. We might as well speak accurately --- unless we have some interest in obfuscating the situation.
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Could participants please try to maintain a calm detachment? Thanks.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
And as I understand it, it is supposed to be beneath the expectations of your creed.
Matthew 7:21
quote: If I recall she is one of those that believes in grace alone, not grace and works, as the road to nirvana or shangri-la or Detroit, whatever. She lapsed. But that's OK. She is a believer so she is forgiven. You and I on the other hand ... Hope your heart wasn't set on Detroit, NoNukes.
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