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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
ICANT writes:
Not even their own gods?
There are millions of very religious people who are depraved and have no one to answer too but themselves. ICANT writes:
And that is just one more example of why people should not have guns. I have a 30.06 rifle that I could part your hair with at 100 yards without scratching the surface of your head. It would probably blister the skin from the friction. It can handle a 10 shot magazine which can be ejected and replaced in less than 2 seconds. It has much more killing power that the so-called assault weapons. But if I was going to do something like in the school I would not choose it or an AR15 semi-automatic or an AK47 semi-automatic rifle. Either of those with a 30 round clip can only fire 30 projectiles before you have to reload. I would choose a Saiga 12 12 gauge shotgun with a 10 round magazine using 00 buckshot which has 9 pellets per shot which would produce 90 projectiles before a reload would be required.The shotgun can fire just as fast as either of the rifles mentioned, and you would have 3 times the opportunity to cause damage. No gun can kill anyone by itself.The first thing that is required is for someone to have the gun in their posession. The second thing is that ammunition has to be placed in the chamber. The third thing that has to happen is the gun must be pointed at the target. The gun could be in this position as long as the person who was holding the gun could support the weight of the gun and it would not kill anyone. For the gun to kill anybody the three things above must be accomplished. The fourth thing is the safety must be taken off. The fifth thing is the triger must be depressed to release the firing pin to strike the ammunition to cause it to fire the projectile. The gun can not accomplish any of these 5 things by itself. It takes intervention by a human. For a human to depress the triger on a gun he/she has to make a decision to kill whatever the gun is pointed at. To fix the problem with deaths by guns the humans need to be fixed. The gun is only a tool, and if that tool is not available another tool will be found and used if a person is intent on taking the life of someone. Evidence of that is the 1,704 deaths by knives and cutting instruments, the 540 death by blunt instruments (clubs, hammers, etc.), and 745 deaths by personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.). What would cause a person to decide to take the life of another person? That is the problem that needs to be fixed."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
That man is allowed to own a gun..."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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ICANT writes:
I have a 30.06 rifle that I could part your hair with at 100 yards without scratching the surface of your head.ICANT writes:
Well - I am not convinced that your eye-sight is as good as you think... quote:The woman reported 52 not 521. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
CS writes:
Because you don't know and are therefore unable to even attempt an explanation?
Would you try explaining to Panda why that matters? CS writes:
I simply do not understand which statement I have not explained. CS writes:
Oh look! You've "suddenly" figured out which statement you have not explained! Would you try explaining to Panda why that matters? Getting Taq to do your work for you is pathetic.If you can't fight your own battles then stop getting into trouble. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
CS writes:
You have failed to explain it in your posts - obviously. I just don't see where I've failed to explain it. As requested by Admin:
Panda writes: CS writes: How would this being national make it too difficult for people to by-pass? Keep in mind we're already knee-deep in guns here. What effect does being already knee deep in guns have?Why do I need to keep it in mind? The nearest CS got to answering it was:
CS writes:
Which is pretty much the same words in a different order. ...guns-being-brought-in is a non-issue when there's already too many guns there to begin with. It seems to me that he was using weasel words to add credence to a weak position - and he refuses to explain what he means because that would expose how baseless his claim was. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Taq writes:
There is a multi-million dollar business in manufacturing and selling guns. Unless we are willing to have government agents go door to door and forcefully search and seize weapons we are going to have to live with the fact that there are millions and millions of weapons out there. There is no way of getting around it. The only way around this problem that I see is to confiscate weapons if they are found on people whne they are in public, but even then we would have to really rethink our constitutional rights as it pertains to search and seizure.If there was no 'churn' in guns, then there would be no business. Guns do not last forever.They get lost/destroyed/broken. So, if your argument is that guns will not reduce in numbers without an active "search and destroy" campaign by government representatives - then I question your judgement on how long a gun lasts. But if your argument is that it will take time to reduce the gun numbers - then I concur.But so what that it will take time? It will take time to end poverty - should we not bother trying? Taq writes:
Isn't there a logical fallacy for that? Overall, I think our money, time, and energy are better spent fixing the underlying problems in our culture. We spend money housing the homeless - but that is just a symptom.We spend money dealing with spousal abuse - but that is just a symptom. We spend money on lots of worthwhile things that are just symptoms of an underlying issue. Are we wrong to spend that money?Can we not spend money on gun control as well as the cause of gun crimes? Ok - spend less on the "war on terror" and more on gun control - seems win/win to me "There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Admin writes:
It was a response to:
When CS asks, "How would this being national make it too difficult for people to by-pass?", what is it that he is talking about? Panda writes:
i.e. He is talking about gun legislation. Gun legislation needs to be national else it is too easy for people to by-pass."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
From that image, did Romney win the election?
Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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ICANT writes:
When asked if they were stupid enough to confess to an additional crime, only 5% said that they were. quote: Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Panda Member (Idle past 3743 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Which TV channel made that?
"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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