Correlation between Anti-Gun v Anti Death Penalty Views

It seems (simple observation) that the majority of people that are against the Death Penalty are also Anti-Gun.Logically, wouldn't we want to rid society of those committing major crimes, rather than blame the items used?Are the guns to blame, thus the need to dispose of them, while giving leave to the criminals because of the effect weapon have on them?Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

Agreed. Corrected

From a criminal's point of view:
You want to make more laws to take guns away from those that actually care about laws, thus I am stronger.
I can take a life without having to give mine in return. Meanwhile, I will have food, shelter, education, drugs and other criminals to learn from until I get out.How many criminals are second offenders? How many commit numerous other crimes against their fellow man? You would protect their lives, while they terrorize others?For those with the "sanctity of life" argument, are you also Pro- Life?

Thus, removing a criminal with 40 crimes under his/her belt would better society 40 fold. You obviously have no idea how to deal with a threat. I don't care if that is how you choose to deal with someone threatening you. In fact, I would hope the criminals seek out people like you. It is a win-win. The criminal gets away without being harmed, and you don't have to worry about their welfare As for abortion, funny how you consider killing humans non of your business. I assume you support Planned Parenthood and support tax payers funding them.

The cost of execution is a breakdown in our system. I am sure a person of average intelligence can find a $20 way to get rid of a criminal.As for the execution in AZ that went longer than planned. Who cares!? How long did it take the innocent victims to die? Did anyone ask the family of the ex-girlfriend or her father how they felt when he was killing them? Did he make it quick to be humane?Funny to me, those that are against ridding society of violent offenders. Makes me question your mental health I feel better knowing that those arguing against the death penalty, also argue that killing a defenseless baby in the womb due to monetary or "bad timing" reasons is acceptable.The insane are running the asylum As for those in the rest of the world (here is to you, UK)questioning the US's method, feel free to mind your own business. If you want to be enslaved by your gov't without any means of defense, since you handed your guns over, feel free Best of luck to you. Enjoy the fear of not being able to protect yourself or family. Amazing how you talk down to us here, when we have the means to protect ourselves, even with our broken system that is gov't caused.ps - the criminal with 40 crimes was referring to executing a violent offender the first time, before they can do it again. If you still don't understand, I will explain it again Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

Non-existent?? Please google home invasions for your own benefit. In fact, have a look at your own country's crime rate increase from 2009 till now. Here is one stat summary I found on the uk: I'll help you with your next post:
1. "Obviously, mram, those are ridiculous statistics!"
2. "You yanks are all the same! ......."The above stats show you must have many more guns than us to cause this much havoc in the UK

So NN,
Cruel and unusual? Would a guillotine be more painless? Yes. Would a firing squad? Yes. So, the cruel and unusual is based on the failure of our system. They want to inject chemicals that have known issues. It doesn't bother me when a violent criminal dies while gasping for breath. I actually think of those he innocently slayed (arizona case) and wonder if it was even close to what they suffered.
As for the scope of the death penalty, I think it should be expanded to child rapists. What is your stance on that?

So, if I am for my guns, I am against the constitution? You are obviously trying to waste time with ignorant statements, but I'll bite.Priceless buddy. You might have skipped the second one. Take a few minutes and google "second amendment". Mom always said don't argue with fools ....

Let's try this one....last.....time. You are saying that a criminal is MORE willing to commit crimes if he is guaranteed to get the death penalty??Also, you mention "how many capital crimes". Let's focus on the majority of violent criminals being repeat offenders (check out the bjs website). If we execute them after the first crime, we don't have to worry about him/her repeating. Keep up now....All that to say, if we get rid of violent offenders after the first one, we are effectively cutting violent crime in half Crazy math here.I'm starting to question your sanity, adequate.

Then please clarify how I am against the constitution and "destroying" this country by being for the 2nd and the 8th?I do not consider a murderer gasping for his final breaths as "cruel and unusual" when his murderous acts were far worse.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

It is interesting how the four of you think you are so wise, yet have no wisdom. Your arguments are ridiculous. Here is why:
1. You blame us influence for your issues in the uk?
2. You cannot do math. I said if we get rid of a murderer the first time, he/she cannot repeat, which is the majority of the time. Thus, they would only commit one crime. Also, they do not sit in jails the rest of their lives, or they wouldn't be considered repeat offenders
3. How is it going against the eighth amendment to be for the death penalty?
I know i am wasting my time, but I need to try. At the end of the day, the four of you are simply illogical and irrational. No skin off my teeth, as they say

Peaceful protests get you no where, if you have no means to defend yourself. The Jews, along with many others, did not fare well against Germany. Only a fool believes that gun control is the means to peace. There were plenty of murders prior to the 19th century.Again, for those that are so against guns, please feel free to give your up, or sell them to me for cheap.Violent criminals are not single time offenders. Google "violent crime repeat offenders" and look at the gov't demographics. Educate yourselves before you counter my claims.

I was hoping to find wisdom here, but sadly, FAITH is the only one with any.For those that want to protect (or are) pedophiles:
Harvard HealthIf we put those first time offenders to death, there would be far less children raped. If you want to protect those, I cannot help you further.As for murderers, let's look at the bjs.gov website:
Recidivism and Reentry | Bureau of Justice Statistics
It was slightly higher than your 3%. It was almost 50%. Maybe the BJS don't keep track very well Please explain how harsher penalties that rid us of recidivism, make criminals commit more crimes ...... logically please On a serious note, have you guys been watching the news about the Christians beheading and crucifying those poor muslims!!! Sick ! Wait a minute ... I might have that wrong ....