Correlation between Anti-Gun v Anti Death Penalty Views

I'm really not concerned about the items used to commit crimes. I'm against the idea of removing people from society by killing them.

I think a more pertinent question would be: How many murderers are second offenders? A guy who commits forty burglaries isn't really relevant to this discussion. Yup. Also pro-choice (pro-minding-my-own-business).

Your math doesn't make any sense. But in any case, I said I was against removing criminals from society by killing them. I'm not necessarily against removing them to prisons. And to expand the logic, I'm not against removing the license to drive, permanently, if that will make the roads safer. Is killing people the only way you can think of to remove a threat? I said I was pro-life. I'm against forcing other people to be pro-life.

If you must have the death penalty, I think you should get rid of the pretense that it's done "humanely".It should be done with a teaspoon. And the ones who support it - e.g. the victim's family - should be the ones to do it.

I suggested one in Message 39:

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If you must have the death penalty, I think you should get rid of the pretense that it's done "humanely".
It should be done with a teaspoon. And the ones who support it - e.g. the victim's family - should be the ones to do it.

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Are you willing to step up and do the deed? Or are ou a hypocrite?

A criminal is more likely to escalate his crimes if he is subject to the death penalty. If speeding gets you the death penalty, you have nothing to lose by shooting the officer who tries to arrest you.

You seem to be suggesting that convicted murderers will murder again if they are released from prison. Do you have any evidence of that?

I googled "violent crime repeat offenders" as you suggested and I found this:

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Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%) and those in prison for possessing, using or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

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Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. These are the lowest rates of re-arrest for the same category of crime. link

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So violent criminals seem to be much less likely to re-offend than non-violent criminals. Done and done.

Well, the search plan was his.

Nothing is "a good thing"; everything has good aspects and bad aspects. Certainly, there were some good aspects to the British rule of India - they made the trains run on time, for example - but there were also some bad aspects.The problem with colonialism and with oppression in general is that the oppressors have a different idea of "a good thing" than the oppressed. It certainly wasn't what you call "Christianity". The British had an internalized sense of right and wrong and Gandhi's peaceful approach appealed to that sense. An armed approach would have appealed to their sense of "putting the niggers in their place".

That page doesn't seem to mention murderers at all. Please be more specific. And use the proper Reply button. Logic doesn't trump facts. If you have any facts that support your position, present them. Then we can use logic on those facts.Edited by ringo, : Added missing s p a c e.