Is Calvinism a form of Gnostic Christianity?

I don't hold to unconditional election and yet, I don't have a problem with these issues, I am still "reminded" of them. ???I don't think God manipulates every action that happens, but I don't see how that diminishes his sovereignty. What? What is the gospel, then??? God ONLY loves the elect?? But he only loves those who are the elect. You just said that!! And he only died for those who believe. So if those statements are true (which they most certainly are not) then he does NOT offer salvation to ALL.This just gets worse and worse . I wish you could actually step back and see what you are saying.HBD

Why are there really bad people?Edited by herebedragons, : No reason given.

The ultimate answer to you is that Calvin is Biblical so that criticizing him is criticizing the Bible. I found a site that lists biblical references for each of the TULIP points but I can't get the thing to load. However, I'd rather quote the references than give chapter and verse numbers anyway. Maybe if we stick to the Bible we can avoid arguing from our own inability to grasp things that are too high for us.The main problem I kept running into in Arminian churches was the way they blame everything on the devil so that you'd think God had no power to deal with him at all, which does seem to follow from the idea that God foresees but does not ordain in the Arminian view.Also all the preaching about signing a card, making a decision, accepting that "God loves you," which you cannot know, and so on.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Why are there tornadoes and earthquakes and sink holes and so on? To complain that God ordains it all is simply to complain about the reality we live in. We live in it no matter what your theology says about it. Once you know the theology what does it accomplish to complain about it? It's all going to happen whether you know the reason for it or not. AND, reality makes sense on the level of our own experience anyway.

How does Arminianism account for evil people? Or account for Satan? Neither is under God's control. It's all free will. I find that nervous-making myself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Why are there bad people, Faith?I will make it multiple choiceA) God made people that are wickedB) People choose, of their own will, to be wickedC) ____________

Why are there tornadoes, HBD?

Weather differences.But God makes people and if God foreknows who will be elected and who will not be elected then that God is just vile, evil, deserves no respect and should be opposed and ridiculed.

You scare me the way you keep digging yourself into the deepest Hell.

Nonsense. Sure, blaming our failings on the devil is inappropriate. But that is not an exclusively Arminian problem. Yes, I don't like that either. It seems more about generating numbers rather than making disciples. But again, not exclusively an Arminian problem. Most Calvinistic churches I have attended have used the same strategy. I think it is a evangelical strategy of the past, not so common anymore. Now this is where you are absolutely and utterly wrong.

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God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.

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Where does it say that God only loves those he has elected?HBD

Jacob I have loved but Esau I have hated.

LOL It scares me that you worship and how hard to try to market a vile evil God who deserves nothing but ridicule and opposition.A God that creates humans with the foreknowledge that the individual will be damned is lower than a kid that pulls off spiders legs, that burns ants with his magnifying glass, that rapes people for fun and giggles.It is not God I ridicule but rather the tiny little pimply faced pimp daddy of a caricature of a god that you try to market.

How is that an answer to my question? How is it even the same thing? Do you believe God makes tornadoes, maybe as judgement? Or is it sin that causes tornadoes.I think it is simply a natural consequence of our physical world and the conditions of our world.Now answer mine.

Laughable.

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Instead, love your enemies, do good, and lend expecting nothing in return. If you do, you will have a great reward. You will be acting the way children of the Most High act, for he is kind to ungrateful and wicked people. Luke 6:35

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But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who harass you Matt 5:44

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You have heard that it was said, You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who harass you so that you will be acting as children of your Father who is in heaven. He makes the sun rise on both the evil and the good and sends rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love only those who love you, what reward do you have? Don’t even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing? Don’t even the Gentiles do the same? Therefore, just as your heavenly Father is complete in showing love to everyone, so also you must be complete. Matthew 5:43-48

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Was Jesus confused? Was he talking about a different God?HBD

Calvinism takes it ALL into account, God IS love. Arminians pick only what suits them and throw out the rest. Besides I don't see what your quotes have to do with election or predestination. Calvinists hardly ignore those commands. Category error.