The 2016 United States Presidential Election

I noted you (and Admin Asgara, Jar, Kjsimmons, Minnemousus, Tanapteryx, Vimesay, and of course "no-reply-Theo") didn’t answer my simple question (above). I even placed a photo to help you all to empathize (if that is even possible). Yet you all did your very best to look away from the horror your preferred candidate creates . . . no response for my other recent reply linking the other dozen countries Hillary has fu*ked. Especially the one about criminal-and-babymurderer-Hillary supporting Saudi Arabia. SAUDI ARABIA!As a Hillary supporter, it must be a continual strain on your neck to look away from all her war-crimes. Exactly, EXACTLY, like Trump supporters holding their noses regarding his stench.M'eh, mark me as unsurprised.

We don't answer your question because it is a bullshit question.Nobody lost their lives because of "Hillary's enthusiastic support".However, it may well be true that dronestar has lost all credibility at evcforum.

Well, let's see if I got the steps of your mature counter-argument correct:1. Without any consideration what-so-ever, you’ve completely dismissed the vast quantity and quality of evidence presented. (Mainly: Message 256, Message 76, and Message 257)2. Then you’ve condemned and ignored the following humane and logical follow-up question as: 'stinky.'

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Do you think the viewpoints of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi mothers, who lost many of their children due to Hillary’s enthusiastic support of Bush Jr.s immoral and illegal Iraq invasion, would also consider Hillary to be a credible potential President?

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3. As you announce you are going home and taking your ball with you, you pivot . . .4. and apply an ad hominen attack to my credibility: Na na, Na na.Errm, . . . Kudos NWR, kudos. How proud you and your young parents must be. Just think, maybe someday you'll be old enough to sit at the grown-up's table here at the debate forum.___________________________(Of all the voter-suppression tactics in place across the usa, a pity there isn’t minimal mental-age suppression.)___________________________COGNITIVE DISSONANCE PHOTO ALERT BELOW:

I tend not to reply to trolls.

A good rule to live by, no doubt. But it doesn't seem quite as important as a rule against supporting war-mongers.

So her vote was wasted. What it shows is her mind-set, her readiness to "solve" problems with war instead of political negotiations.She admits making errors when it is politically expedient. Gay marriage is another case in point. She "evolves" ...If your candidate consistently makes an initial (bad) choice counter to social progress, then they are being dragged to the correct path, not leading.Curiously, I want a leader that makes the right initial choices.Enjoy

I certainly hope you voted for the Democratic Presidential candidates, and not George W. Bush or some third party candidate (I voted Dem).Otherwise, you were not in opposition to the regime that started the Iraq war.Moose

Well, you'll have no worries on that score with Trump.

You do realize that is a photo of a massacre that happened in 1982, don't you???

As of 1024 pm MST, Trump is ahead in the electoral college by 244-215 and it doesnt look good.What worries me about him is that the Supreme Court will turn very conservative and the world will not react well to Trump as US figurehead after embracing Obama.

Yep, the DNC managed to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory.This is something I posted in July before the primary:

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There are a lot of democrats who will stay home or vote for Jill rather than vote for Hillary. Certainly she won't inspire independents to vote for progressive down-ticket candidates.

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If we would be voting for "the lesser of two evils" in November, between #SHiliary and #ScaryHairy, shouldn't we be talking about picking a candidate that is not a "lesser evil" in the first place?

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Let me put this out here once again: the super-delegates will pick the candidate in the July 25-28 convention, ... but INDEPENDENT voters will pick the PRESIDENT in the November election.

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If the DNC (super-delegates) picks Hillary and she loses to Trump it will NOT be because of Bernie, or Bernie supporters, ... it will be because they - the DNC and democrat establishment and the corporate media - picked a WEAKER candidate, one with less mass appeal and one who is seen by many - especially by independent voters - as part of the corrupt system\establishment problem instead of as part of a solution.

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Many (over 50% in some polls) of Bernie supporters are #BernieOrBust or #NeverHillary, and have vowed that they will not vote for her. That means a loss of 25% to 30% of the democrat votes in November -- enough to lose the election.

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My feeling is that Hillary as candidate will *NOT* inspire people outside the DINO establishment core of the party to vote for her, that she *WILL* inspire MANY disillusioned republicans to come out and rally just to vote AGAINST her, that as a result she will *NOT* help retake the senate or other down-ticket positions ...

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and I take no joy in being right.In politics perception is 9/10ths of reality, and Hillary was damaged goods from the get-go.

Oh God, what have you done.....?

I remember how I felt when Schrubbia was "re-elected" ... and now we will see a bunch of "miss me yet" signs.Perhaps the one good thing out of this mess is that we don't have to hear about Hillary anymore.The DNC took the wrong lesson from the Gore race and blamed Nader instead of looking into why Gore failed to inspire the progressive side of the democrats, and then threw salt on the wound by picking neo-lib Lieberman instead of a progressive VP -- So Hillary copied what Gore did and **SURPRISE* got the same result: low turnouts in dem districts.

As I expected, Rhode Island went Hillary, but all our electoral college votes were not enough. Bad logic there, if you are talking about this election. If you are talking about 2000 and 2004, I voted dem, and I also did not believe the rush to war propaganda. I had small company, but Bernie was one, and he was right on that and a number of other issues.Enjoy

Are you honestly saying that if I think Hillary's first choices on a number of issues has been wrong, that her instinct is not good, and that I don't trust her to make the right decisions in the future ...... that somehow I think Trump would be a good leader???Really?I think he could start a nuclear war with Mexico.