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Faith 
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Message 530 of 892 (794962)
12-02-2016 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 523 by herebedragons
12-02-2016 12:50 PM


Re: The Militarization of everything
Not aware of that website.

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Message 531 of 892 (794963)
12-02-2016 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 522 by herebedragons
12-02-2016 12:29 PM


Re: The Militarization of everything
The "fake news" ploy is mostly a recent propaganda attack on the alternative media. The claims of fake news ARE the fake news and speaking of fake news the MSM's prognostications about the election were likely trumped up to discourage Trump voters, which is a form of fake news, only they managed to fake out themselves instead of the Trump supporters. There's some on both sides of course, but the propaganda is aimed against the right wing. As a matter of fact how would you know if a supposed right wing story wasn't a left wing plant anyway? That silly picture of the Obamas sounds like that sort of thing. But this current "fake news" line is certainly just propaganda and should be ignored.
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Message 532 of 892 (794964)
12-02-2016 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 521 by Taq
12-02-2016 10:47 AM


Re: The Militarization of everything
I have never said anything against LEGAL immigrants or refugees.
You guys can't say anything without insinuating racism or some other PC category, can you? It's got to be ad hominem, you can't treat opponents with respect. Boy have you been taught well. Is it possible to find fault with the Black Lives Matter protests just because they are violent, illegal, and trumped up by Leftists like Soros? Obviously not, any objections MUST be racist. That way you can shut up legitimate objections. And you don't even know you are just falling for tactics designed to produce destructive movements, vilify and blame people who don't deserve it.
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Faith 
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Message 535 of 892 (794967)
12-02-2016 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 520 by Percy
12-02-2016 7:43 AM


Re: The Militarization of everything
Trump does play an active role in promoting the comparison to pre-WWII Germany and Hitler. Saying things such as threatening to arrest your political opponent will do that.
For criminal activity that he thinks can be proved? What?
If one were to ask oneself which president of the past 220 years would be most likely to declare martial law and eventually give himself dictatorial powers, which one would it be? Jimmy Carter, right? Just kidding. It's Trump, of course.
No, it's Obama, not so much he himself but those who are behind him; and Hillary if she had won. Oh, Lyndon Johnson if he'd been in the right circumstances, and maybe even George Bush.
ABE: By the way, the Left is provoking all the violence in the country. What if they could provoke it to the point that drastic action did have to be taken such as martial law? That would mean Trump having to do it, right? Do you guys ever think about how the Left fakes stuff? Anyway, Trump is no Hitler, he's a genuine freedom-loving American patriot who really wants to bring the nation back to prosperity and protect us from enemies. Real enemies. He has no hatred for Muslims, he just wants to be sure we aren't going to be subjected to more jihad. Which is hard to do in the teeth of Leftist propaganda that refuses to see any danger and has to vilify anybody who does. /abe
But I go back to the fact that your concern about the "military presence" being intended to get us "used to it" implies that somebody has that objective in furthering that presence. You claim you weren't thinking of right or left but now you are specifically pointing to Trump, which was your obvious idea in the first place, which is why I took it that way. How could it possibly be Trump or the Right when it occurred under Obama and Trump wasn't even in the picture?
There is something SO wrong with leftist thinking it is beyond my ability to figure it out.
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Message 536 of 892 (794968)
12-02-2016 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 534 by Coyote
12-02-2016 10:38 PM


Re: The Militarization of everything
Yes, like Rules for Radicals.

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Message 537 of 892 (794969)
12-02-2016 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by Modulous
12-02-2016 10:36 PM


Re: Election Fraud 2016 -- Michigan
I do not trust ANYTHING you can drum up about Gregg Phillips. I refuse to get into the ad hominems here. All I care about is whether he can eventually justify his claim that he found three million noncitizen voters on the rolls. I can see why it would take time to verify all that, I just hope he will do it.

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Message 540 of 892 (794972)
12-02-2016 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 539 by Dr Adequate
12-02-2016 11:13 PM


Re: The Militarization of everything
It would have happened by now, but fortunately the necessary circumstances didn't arise, so there's nothing to bet about.
I think in the end the American system does work, and potential tyrants really are prevented from doing dangerous things they might do under a different system. If the Left keeps at it, though, they may prove me wrong.

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Message 542 of 892 (794974)
12-02-2016 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 541 by Dr Adequate
12-02-2016 11:31 PM


Re: Election Fraud 2016 -- Michigan
He presents himself as a vote fraud investigator. I don't have any reason to doubt him until I have a reason to doubt him, and certainly nothing anybody at EvC has to say about him will suffice. Meanwhile we wait for verification.

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Message 544 of 892 (794977)
12-03-2016 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 543 by Dr Adequate
12-03-2016 12:16 AM


Re: Election Fraud 2016 -- Michigan
If there is still a complete absence of evidence in five or six months, which is what he implied it will take, then I'll consider him the fraud.

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Message 546 of 892 (794979)
12-03-2016 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 545 by NoNukes
12-03-2016 5:05 AM


Re: The Militarization of everything
All the antisemitic propaganda was made up. Islam, however, promotes slavery, subjugation to Islam and murder of "infidels," and that isn't made up. And it is dangerous to have ANY Muslims in the country for that reason, even the apparently peaceable ones and the ones who interpret Islam in a more peaceful way, because there is always the possibility that any believer in Islam can be radicalized under the right circumstances. And no I'm not proposing deporting legitimate citizens. They're here and we have to hope they'll stay peacful. But Islam is an evil ideology. And although the term "Islamophobe" is just nasty propaganda to discredit people you disagree with, I'll cop to it because it is an evil barbarian murderous ideology that wants to rule the world and it would be irrational to the point of in-sanity not to fear it. It's that irrationality and innsanity that is destroying Europe as we speak.
Why when I mention what MIGHT happen in the future under current Leftist trends do you all so inanely point out that it hasn't happened YET as if that's relevant? These things are happening in Europe where they are laboring under political correctness to a far greater extreme than we are YET -- it's only going to get worse unless God has mercy on them, give it a decade or so before even you may have to admit the reality of the problem. Trump's presidency may help push back the tide here if one of your guys doesn't manage to assassinate him before he can.
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Faith 
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Message 548 of 892 (794982)
12-03-2016 6:53 AM
Reply to: Message 547 by NoNukes
12-03-2016 6:42 AM


Re: The Militarization of everything
So stew in your self-delusion along with all the other deniers of reality. Fortunately there are still some sane people left in the world, who are smart enough to stay away from a place like EvC.

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Faith 
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Message 551 of 892 (794986)
12-03-2016 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 550 by Percy
12-03-2016 7:24 AM


Re: The Militarization of everything
I studIed the history and cultural expressions of Islam long ago, before 9/11 even. I have all the evidence needed to know that Islam is an evil ideology though many of its members live without that knowledge until something makes them aware of it, which can radicalize them.
And I'll say it again even to the deaf and blind delusional evc-ers that I am NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, NOT ABOUT RACES -- I'm talking about IDEOLOGIES. There are evil ideologies in the world that are designed to destroy human beings and nations and rule the world. People are their victims. But since they are also their carriers you can't just pretend there is no threat from people who are in thrall to them.
NOW I HOPE I CAN GET OUT OF THIS INCUBATOR OF LIES.
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Faith 
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Message 557 of 892 (794993)
12-03-2016 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 555 by Coyote
12-03-2016 10:52 AM


Oh come on, Coyote, don't you know that Breitbart is prime "fake news"? And how do we know that? Because the MSM disagrees with them, and they say they are fake news. I mean nothing could be clearer, the evidence is ironclad. And a bunch of racists too, and we know that because they have that story about illegals voting. Open and shut case there. And they probably object to a lot of what Black Lives Matter does too, confirming their white supremacist racism. And since they've certainly objected to bringing jihadists into the country without some attempt to judge just how jihadist they are, there's more evidence of racism, AND xenophobia too. I mean it's open and shut, Coyote, might as well give up trying to bring sanity to this discussion because they've already figured out that you're just a racist too.

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Faith 
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Message 561 of 892 (794998)
12-03-2016 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 560 by caffeine
12-03-2016 12:42 PM


Re: The Militarization of everything
What you say is quite credible. I'll have to do some checking. Thanks.

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Message 562 of 892 (794999)
12-03-2016 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 560 by caffeine
12-03-2016 12:42 PM


The Italian hotel owner
The video of the Italian old man and the hotel certainly shows something being forced on him by the police that he strenuously objects to. You've pretty much acknowledged this but I thought I'd put up the video. It shows the day the refugees arrived in two vans, who were taken inside while the man is protesting. It is hard to understand how this could happen to anyone in a civilized country. Old law of eminent domain? Sounds like an excuse for thievery to me. How can a government do that to its people?

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