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Porosity Member (Idle past 2124 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined:
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What a great thing.......eight years of watching liberal heads EXPLODE. Doesn't realize he's getting fucked while celebrating.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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petrophysics1 writes:
You voted for him before he did anything. You've got your "because" before the horse. Trump is great he is doing everything he said he would. That's why I voted for him, along with 79.6% of the people in Sublette County Wyoming where I live. Thanks for demonstrating the "mind" of a Trump voter.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Trump is great he is doing everything he said he would. * "I would release tax returns, and I would also explain to people that as a person that’s looking to make money, I’m in the business of making money and if I won, I’d make money for our country. [...] I have no objection to certainly showing tax returns." * "I would rarely leave the White House because there's so much work to be done." * "I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go play golf." * "You know, I tweeted today, @realDonaldTrump. I tweet. Don’t worry, I’ll give it up after I’m president. We won’t tweet anymore. I don’t know. Not presidential." --- Now, these are easy promises to keep. The first can be achieved in a two minute phone call. The other three can be achieved by not doing stuff. How hard can it be? I've never tweeted, played golf, or spent the weekend at Mar-A-Lago, and for a small fee I can teach Trump not to do those things either. Is he gonna blame Democratic obstructionism?
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Trump is great he is doing everything he said he would. That's why I voted for him, along with 79.6% of the people in Sublette County Wyoming where I live. I understand that folks often dismiss petro's posts, but his opinion seems to match that of ninety percent of Republican voters. Everything that appears inane and stupid to his detractors seems genius to folks like Petro, marc9000, and Faith as well as millions of others. Trump is going to be a two-term president. Most of us are underestimating his appeal by applying logic, reason, and truth to what he says and are missing the fact that his attacks on the press and wild conspiracy theories regarding his opposition, just confirm things they already believe and make them feel good about themselves. Facts alone are not going to convince his base. It also turns out that you really can make a country work better by scapegoating the weak, depriving folks of heath care and safety nets, and exploiting nationalism, putting coal dust into rivers and streams, and punishing/discriminating against folks without due process as long as you paint them as the enemy. History shows that such things work at least in the short term. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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It also turns out that you really can make a country work better by scapegoating the weak, depriving folks of heath care and safety nets, and exploiting nationalism, putting coal dust into rivers and streams, and punishing/discriminating against folks without due process as long as you paint them as the enemy. History shows that such things work at least in the short term. Man, that is really sad and depressing. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Pia Guerra's cartoon of Steve Bannon and Donald Trump has been retweeted 27,000 times! Seriously, though...half of us think Trump is doing a great and huuuuge job making America great...wealthy...prosperous...and taking care of itself instead of the rest of the world...but I fear this strategy will come back around to bite us! If the world decides to turn on us we may find ourselves adrift in the water...without a lifeboat. Trumps International Policies Could Have Lasting Effects On Higher Education From this story: quote: This whole idea of "fake news" is an irony: Trump himself generates so much news that its almost akin to counter-propaganda...his supporters believe a lot of it, while the rest of us laugh about it...but to be honest, the future state of our nation and its affairs is uncertain.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler |
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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The new travel ban is much like the old. The details can be read here, Trump Issues a Travel Ban Altered to Stand Up in Court, notably that total refugees for 2017 is reduced from 110,000 to 50,000, but the important question is whether the new ban will stand up to legal scrutiny. Both the Washington Post and the New York Times ran editorials arguing that the new ban is still illegal and unconstitutional:
These editorials argue that if the travel ban is overturned it will be because its actual purpose is religious discrimination against Muslims. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Percy writes: These editorials argue that if the travel ban is overturned it will be because its actual purpose is religious discrimination against Muslims. And the Federal Court in Virginia already did the basic work documenting the evidence for the actual purpose as covered in Message 731 of thread Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The budget cuts already proposed at NOAA really are just the beginning. It seems almost every Agency that deals with climate or weather or the environment is about to be emasculated.
source Some parts: The already reported cuts at NOAA specifically targeting satellite technology.
quote: quote: quote: This is without a doubt the clearest example of Willful Ignorance writ large I have ever seen. And the Congress is right there with their corporate heads up their asses.
quote: The bright spot in all this is that the rest of the world can get along just fine without the US and in fact will be happy to see the US bow out as a developed Nation and remain on the sidelines.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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The bright spot in all this is that the rest of the world can get along just fine without the US and in fact will be happy to see the US bow out as a developed Nation and remain on the sidelines. Indeed, why should scientist stay here when they can do real science elsewhere. Why should any students study science here when they can do more cutting edge science elsewhere. How many generations will it take to completely emasculate knowledge? by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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RAZD writes: How many generations will it take to completely emasculate knowledge? Only in the US. China and Pakistan and Korea and Japan and India and Iraq and Iran and Brazil and Mexico and Malaysia and Indonesia and Vietnam and the rest of the world will keep advancing. And they will still need folk to wash their cars, flip their burgers, cut their grass, wash their dishes so there will be many opportunities for kids from the US.
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
The bright spot in all this is that the rest of the world can get along just fine without the US and in fact will be happy to see the US bow out as a developed Nation and remain on the sidelines.
How is that a bright spot? Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: jar writes: How is that a bright spot? The bright spot in all this is that the rest of the world can get along just fine without the US and in fact will be happy to see the US bow out as a developed Nation and remain on the sidelines.
Well, it is bright in many ways. The addition of knowledge and science will continue, the hungry of the rest of the world will get fed and they will be able to buy and use our remaining natural resources without as great an impact on their resources and environment. The economies of all the other nations will continue to grow. Change only happens when a pain threshold of not changing is greater than the pain threshold of changing. AbE: Forgot to add The US will become even more wealthy, the money from selling just the resources on our public lands will be phenomenal. As we remove worker safety limits and minimum wage restrictions and environmental regulations US industry will be able to produce goods cheap enough to sell to everyone. The stock market will reach unimagined heights for likely a half century. The formula of cheap labor and cheap resources and uncontrolled exploitation has always produced great wealth. Edited by jar, : see AbE
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Today there are two new court challenges the Trump Administration faces. Hawaii has become the first State to challenge the All New Improved Travel nonsense order and in California the San Francisco City Attorney has asked a Federal Judge to invoke an injunction blocking Trumps effort to withhold funding to Sanctuary Cities.
source In Good News, China has granted dozens of source Follow the money folk. Edited by jar, : add sources Edited by jar, : trademarks not patents
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