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Author Topic:   Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left
Faith 
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Message 63 of 381 (812987)
06-22-2017 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Genomicus
06-22-2017 2:40 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
That is the most pernicious insane equation you've come up with yet. No, maybe your comparison of US immigration law with the Spanish Inquisition is worse. You are indeed flirting with treason, and so are many Leftists.
Calling Trump a fascist and defying our legitimate laws is in fact an expression of Leftist fascism, already way too influential in American politics.
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He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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Message 65 of 381 (812990)
06-22-2017 3:11 AM
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06-22-2017 3:04 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
You've absolutely made up your portrait of me out of whole cloth. I have never said one thing to justify such an idea of some kind of slavish obedience to law. There is nothing unjust about a law against illegally coming into the country. It's crazy to claim there is. Screaming bonkers crazy destructive.
Here I thought maybe I could make an effort to absorb some Marxist theory for the sake of discussion. Forget it, the Marxism-besotted Left is just as insane as I've said it is, insane, mean, twisted, dedicated to the Marxist formula that invents enemies called Oppressors and Victims to justify their hatred of the supposed Oppressors. Designed to destroy all civility and reason.
So much for discussion.
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Message 67 of 381 (812992)
06-22-2017 3:23 AM
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06-22-2017 3:16 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
If you want to help people you don't do it by violating American law. There are millions, billions, of suffering people in this world and you want to destroy all law and order for the sake of a few? In the process causing hardship to Americans? Why don't you move to Mexico and help the people where they live? Instead of forcing your insane Marxist views on this nation go do it to Mexico.
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Message 69 of 381 (812996)
06-22-2017 3:45 AM
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06-22-2017 3:26 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
Harriet Tubman was an American. I've never said there aren't unjust laws. American immigration law is not unjust. Your twisted mind is a sad legacy of the Marxist undermining of American education since the sixties. Marxism is sheer evil masquerading as good, just the way the devil loves to do it. Aiding illegal border crashers should get a person prosecuted and thrown in prison for a few months. That includes people looking for cheap labor and it includes wacko do-gooders.

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Message 73 of 381 (813007)
06-22-2017 9:36 AM
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06-22-2017 8:53 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
Yes, that is correct, you don't violate American law, there is no reason to in most cases either. You are always free to work to change the law and that's the right thing to do. It is an extreme situation when a person is forced to disobey the law. Immigration is not that situation, and violators should be prosecuted.

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Message 74 of 381 (813008)
06-22-2017 9:39 AM
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06-22-2017 7:59 AM


Re: the law and the implementation
If the implementation is unjust then see what can be done to change it, stop screaming about Trump and go about legally changing what needs to be changed. Legally, with respect for law.

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Message 75 of 381 (813009)
06-22-2017 9:41 AM
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06-22-2017 8:51 AM


Re: Critical Theory?
Yes, Islam is an evil murderous ideology. Roman Catholics who aid illegal immigrants should be prosecuted.

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Message 76 of 381 (813010)
06-22-2017 9:46 AM
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06-21-2017 5:48 PM


Re: Chapter One: Communist Manifesto
Islam is an evil murderous ideology. Individual Muslims are not the ideology.
Rightwing American politics isn't an ideology At the moment it's mostly a reaction against evil anti-American Marxism.
As usual the problem is talking about people when I'm talking about ideologies.

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Message 79 of 381 (813016)
06-22-2017 9:56 AM
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06-22-2017 9:51 AM


Re: the law and the implementation
When the real Fascists call Trump a Fascist it's all over for America.
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Message 80 of 381 (813017)
06-22-2017 9:58 AM
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06-22-2017 9:56 AM


Re: Chapter One: Communist Manifesto
Funny how you can't tolerate the truth and resort to childish mimicry which of course promotes a lie.

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Message 88 of 381 (813062)
06-22-2017 12:42 PM
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06-22-2017 12:30 PM


Re: US "conservatism" is certainly no longer an ideology
Islam is an evil evil ideology. Evil evil evil, murderous, totalitarian, take over the world evil. Marxism has a foothold in American politics and it's another evil ideology and it supports Islam.
Sorry, I'll have to come back to this, it's too depressing right now.

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Message 94 of 381 (813098)
06-23-2017 7:33 AM


Topic Alert
This thread isn't about the history of England, or the Christian Church. I have no idea what LNA had in mind, as I just about never do anyway, but this thread is about Marxism in today's Left. A lot has been posted already about Marxism that could be followed up if anyone is interested, but at least the other topics don't belong here.

  
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Message 95 of 381 (813099)
06-23-2017 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by Phat
06-23-2017 6:10 AM


Marx and Satan
If you want to pursue the theme of Satan's role in Marxism I'm not sure there's enough information here for that. It's something Pastor Wurmbrand discovered and wrote about in his book but what's in the book hasn't been brought out. Apparently he discovered actual involvement of Marx and others in the Satanic church of the day. I read the book years ago and don't remember much of it, and as usual can't find it. If it shows up I'd like to read it again, but for now I'm not sure there's much to follow up on this subject.
ABE: Found A FREE PDF OF THE BOOK. I thought I'd have to buy a Kindle version at Amazon, which is more expensive than many, but no, here it is free.
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Message 98 of 381 (813103)
06-23-2017 8:12 AM
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06-23-2017 8:07 AM


Re: Marx and Satan
I'm reading the PDF of the book.. The book is interesting, a biographical study of Marx showing his turning from his Christian upbringing to hatred of God.
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Message 105 of 381 (813121)
06-23-2017 10:23 AM
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06-23-2017 10:04 AM


Re: Marx and Satan
Based on what? Trump is known as a friend of workers, he prefers their company to that of rich people. Where are you getting this idea he'd do anything to undermine workers' wellbeing?
There is no reason Marxism has to be the philosophy for worker's rights, and it's unfortunate that historically they've dominated the area. A Christian perspective should be just as effective, and without all the class hatred.

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