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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
To restate what Classical Marxism and Cultural Marxism have in common, how the one derives from the other, as was spelled out in the essay on Political Correctness above:
If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious. First of all, both are totalitarian ideologies. The totalitarian nature of Political Correctness is revealed nowhere more clearly than on college campuses, many of which at this point are small ivy covered North Koreas.... Second, the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness, like economic Marxism, has a single factor explanation of history. Economic Marxism says that all of history is determined by ownership of means of production. Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, says that all history is determined by power, by which groups defined in terms of race, sex, etc., have power over which other groups. Nothing else matters. All literature, indeed, is about that. Everything in the past is about that one thing. Third, just as in classical economic Marxism certain groups, i.e. workers and peasants, are a priori good, and other groups, i.e., the bourgeoisie and capital owners, are evil. In the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness certain groups are good — feminist women, (only feminist women, non-feminist women are deemed not to exist) blacks, Hispanics, homosexuals.... Fourth, both economic and cultural Marxism rely on expropriation. When the classical Marxists, the communists, took over a country like Russia, they expropriated the bourgeoisie, they took away their property. Similarly, when the cultural Marxists take over a university campus, they expropriate through things like quotas for admissions. When a white student with superior qualifications is denied admittance to a college in favor of a black or Hispanic who isn’t as well qualified, the white student is expropriated.... It's totalitarian, it defines everything for us, we have no need to think, in fact thinking risks running afoul of the party line. They control us by their PC epithets. Or you who agree with them control the rest of us. It's a diabolically effective form of censorship, enforcer of conformity and denier of freedom of speech. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: It's totalitarian, it defines everything for us, we have no need to think, in fact thinking risks running afoul of the party line. They control us by their PC epithets. Or you who agree with them control the rest of us. It's a diabolically effective form of censorship, enforcer of conformity and denier of freedom of speech. Once again though, reality shows you are simply posting nonsense. You have shown no evidence that anyone controls you, censors you, enforces conformity or denies freedom of speech.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
"Wolf! Wolf! Why won't you let me cry Wolf!?"
They control us by their PC epithets. Or you who agree with them control the rest of us. It's a diabolically effective form of censorship, enforcer of conformity and denier of freedom of speech.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Europe is completely controlled by PC, that's why they're getting destroyed by "immigrants," the Marxist Victim / Oppressed Group du jour. So tenderly defended by the EvC crowd too, we can all just lie down and let Islam behead us or subjugate us or whatever they want to do because they are the designated Oppressed Group du jour.
Or we should let the entire country of Mexico take us over. Why not, they're "brown people," who are defined by Marxism as Oppressed. they can oppress us all they want, we don't count. Marxism pits groups against each other, the designated oppressed can do whatever they want to the "oppressor," it's all a matter of definitions,k hang reality. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
(I thought you were the oppressed one.) Europe is completely controlled by PC, that's why they're getting destroyed by "immigrants," the Marxist Victim / Oppressed Group du jour. What about Canada? Immigrants are our strength. My grandparents were immigrants.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You're kidding. I'm the Oppressor according to Marxism. I'm white, I'm a Christian and I'm an American. Grade A Oppressor, nothing worse than my kind.
My father was an immigrant. A LEGAL immigrant. But Marxism favors ILLEGAL immigrants. Only a Marxist would call an illegal immigrant an "immigrant."
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Once again though, reality shows you are simply posting nonsense.
You have shown no evidence that anyone controls you, censors you, enforces conformity or denies freedom of speech.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You live in la la land for sure. Anybody paying any attention at all to discussions at EvC knows that I get slapped down frequently with Marxist accusations. I'm tough enough to bounce back but a lot of people aren't. The intimidation factor of PC is enormous. Europe is being killed by it.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's right. You're the oppressor according to reality. Ever hear of history? I'm the Oppressor according to Marxism. I'm white, I'm a Christian and I'm an American. Grade A Oppressor, nothing worse than my kind. You're just complaining that your ability to oppress is being curtailed. But removing your ability to enslave doesn't make you a slave.
Faith writes:
I have no idea whether my grandparents were "legal" or not. Western Canada was a wild and wooly place a hundred years ago. I doubt if anybody could tell legals from illegals. I do know that my mother's parents lived on both sides of the 49th parallel from time to time so they might have been legal on one side and illegal on the other.
My father was an immigrant. A LEGAL immigrant. Faith writes:
Well, Marxism favours the rights and needs of the workers over the arbitrary laws and borders that the rich use to protect their wealth.
But Marxism favors ILLEGAL immigrants. Faith writes:
Only a Marxist would call a brown cow a cow. Seems fair.
Only a Marxist would call an illegal immigrant an "immigrant."
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
You do a hell of a lot more slapping than getting slapped.
Anybody paying any attention at all to discussions at EvC knows that I get slapped down frequently with Marxist accusations.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Anybody paying any attention at all to discussions at EvC knows that I get slapped down frequently with Marxist accusations. Bullshit. But you haven't been censored, nobody has attempted to control you or force you to conform to anything other then US law, or denied you nay freedom of speech.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Where have I even mentioned myself? What's with you people? I'm talking about influences that have as their aim to suppress dissidence, and they succeed in many cases. Throwing them at me is intended to hurt at least, so many daggers in the flesh. Lots of people would go away under such attacks. It's all a way to put people down and it does work to suppress people in many cases. As in Europe where few want to risk saying anything against their "immigrants" and "refugees." I'm persona non grata for my opinions here. I just don't give in as some would.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well there you have it, pure Marxist evil presented as good.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You'll have to be more specific. What are you calling evil?
Well there you have it, pure Marxist evil presented as good.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes:
You live in la la land for sure. Anybody paying any attention at all to discussions at EvC knows that I get slapped down frequently with Marxist accusations. I'm tough enough to bounce back but a lot of people aren't. The intimidation factor of PC is enormous. Europe is being killed by it. Yes, we know that is what you claim, yet so far you have never shown any evidence to support your position.
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