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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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iano writes: He owns us and can set any condition he likes. This is your justification for every nasty thing your god does to us, isn't it? He made us so he can do what ever he wants with us and we should not criticise becuase we are only here because of him so we should be greatful for what ever crumbs of happiness we can claw together before your god puts us out of our misery to make a point to somebody else. Sorry about the sentence length.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Er.. no. Sorry about the sentence's brevity. What part of my long sentence do you disagree with?
Why would anyone point a gun at someone anymore? They might as well just shake their fist. Hasn't this solutiion effectively manacled up the will by removing any means of expression (unto evil)? I have often wanted to kill people but the risk involved and the bother I would have to go through precludes that activity. As your god apparently made the universal laws in such a way as to preclude me from being able to kill people with mind bullets I'm left with no recourse but to not kill people. Where is my free will? Edited by Larni, : Mind bullets
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
You have not answered my question:
What is factually wrong with my long sentence? And, did you read my ABE:? ABE: I see you read my ABE: Edited by Larni, : ABE
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I'll edict my sentence for clarity.
He made us. (As a result) he can do what ever he wants with us and we should not criticise becuase we are only here because of him so we should be greatful for what ever crumbs of happiness we can claw together before your god puts us out of our misery to make a point to somebody else.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
If, for example, it was known that God's purpose for me was eg: only to harm me then I'd spend all the time I could telling him what a git he is This statement can only mean that you believe that even though your god could (and often does) create somebody with the intention of them living in agony for a spell then dieing there is infact something else that balances this up for the individual- if he accepts salvation in Jesus's sacrifice. Am I on the right track, here?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
God doesn't create people with the intention of them living in agony for a spell But he does. I see it on TV. Iano, your position is that of a hostage with Stockholem syndrome defending the terrorist who let another hostage starve to death. You can't defend the terrorist by saying he has the right to do what he wants because he created the situation and has a gun.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Assuming your god controls the nature of his creation vis a vis being born in pain or out of pain he is a fiend.
If I have the choice of crafting a living being I'll do it right (if I had that kind of power). There is no reason to have children born with aids. Your god perportedly has that power to create. Why does he create babies with aids when he could creat babies without aids? Stockholme syndrome drips from every post you write. If you weren't worried about going to hell would you still defend your god's actions?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Learning is fine, being born with AIDs is not fine.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
iano writes: It's one thing to decide to murder a child and to make your way to it's room with that intent - it's quite another to stick a knife in it's chest. iano writes: God finds mind bullets murderous btw. The same heart that shoots those would shoot live bullets were there a chance of getting away without negative consequences. It's the thought* that counts - there's hardly merit in your motivation for not murdering being the fact you might get caught. My bold. A contradiction, I believe. Unless you hold man's morality higher than your god's?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I don't understand how you can't see the contradiction.
That said, I've just done 4 patients back to back so my mind in fried. I'll deconstruct my point, but I lack the capacity now .
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Ha ha. I am going to supervision; difficult day.
Say hi to your wife. (Where I imagine the supervision gag was from). Please note the No offence.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
The contadiction is that one the one hand you say that by making guns and knives etc not work for murderers would be a crime against their free will and thus your god would not do it.
On the other hand they are apparently just as sinful when they use mind bullets as when the use real bullets. That being the case, the punishment should be the same for thought of deed. As such, making the guns and knives not work does not remove free will at all. Your gods could make the guns and knives not work whille preserving free will and his chance to punish wrong doers (what with it being an unavoidable part of his nature, and all). He could do it that way with out other people getting hurt because you god can't bear to interfer with free will (except when he wants to, of course [that being meet and right, by definition]).
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