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Panda
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Message 166 of 182 (629295)
08-16-2011 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 7:40 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:

Stop acting silly.


You used the word 'Homeosaps'.
'Homeosaps' is not a real word.

Q: What language do you think you are speaking?


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Message 167 of 182 (629296)
08-16-2011 7:42 PM
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08-16-2011 7:40 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Stop acting silly.

You first.


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Panda
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Message 168 of 182 (629298)
08-16-2011 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 7:39 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:

There is no record of history per se outside that date and writings. However, its truth does not impact. It remains the oldest 'RECORDED' declaration.


So - you just plucked that number from out of your arse.
Understood.
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Message 169 of 182 (629299)
08-16-2011 7:46 PM
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08-16-2011 7:30 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Sorry but that is simply a falsehood.

Please provide a document written 5770 years ago.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 170 of 182 (629302)
08-16-2011 8:00 PM


Pretty much, recent message quality has ranged from poor to wretched
Closing this topic down if things don't get better.

Adminnemooseus


Please be familiar with the various topics and other links in the "Essential Links", found in the top of the page menu. Amongst other things, this is where to find where to report various forum problems.

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Message 171 of 182 (629303)
08-16-2011 8:06 PM
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08-16-2011 8:00 PM


Re: Pretty much, recent message quality has ranged from poor to wretched
Pls do. How long can one poster be allowed to shame so many for so long!
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IamJoseph
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Message 172 of 182 (629304)
08-16-2011 8:07 PM
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08-16-2011 7:43 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Try the dead sea scrolls. Its still the oldest recording of life form groupings.

CHECK MATE.


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Panda
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Message 173 of 182 (629305)
08-16-2011 8:15 PM
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08-16-2011 8:07 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:

Try the dead sea scrolls. Its still the oldest recording of life form groupings.


They aren't 5770 years old; they aren't even 3000 years old - and you were talking about the oldest name and not the oldest 'life form groupings'.
Maybe you could try sticking to the point.

So - oldest name on record?
IamJoseph: "I have nothing."
Panda: "Narmer, an Egyptian Pharaoh of both Upper and Lower Egypt who lived in the 32nd century BC."

IamJoseph writes:

CHECK MATE


In case you hadn't realised, we are not playing chess.
If we were playing chess you would be more likely to eat the pieces or wedge one up your nose than actually play and win.

Also, you used the word 'Homeosaps'.
'Homeosaps' is not a real word.
Q: What language do you think you are speaking?

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Message 174 of 182 (629306)
08-16-2011 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 7:24 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
This, like many such posts, say the non-creationists have lost all credibility, and has become akin to another radical fundamentalist religion.

Im just answering stupid with stupid.

I also anwsered your question as silly as it was 33000 years ago the first man painted what he was doing in his life it is ylso possible he painted his name we just cant see it because we donot understand the mindset he was in. The same way we needed the Rosetta stone to decipher hieroglyphics.

p.s. Unless you have found a version of the bible written in klinoform i seriously doubt Adam is the oldest name on record, and given that the oldest bible is 1600 years old, and the oldest manuscripst of the torah are some 2600 years old, the name adam does not go as fare back as you think.


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Message 175 of 182 (629307)
08-16-2011 8:24 PM
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08-16-2011 8:07 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
oldest recording of life form groupings

WTF do you mean by this ????

try the fossil records allot of lifeforms grouped, my guess some 3 billion years ago the first lifeforms grouped, you can find groups of one cell organisms that made the limestone deposits and the best part unlike writing that is not objective the deposits objectively record lifeform groupings


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Message 176 of 182 (629308)
08-16-2011 8:31 PM
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08-16-2011 8:15 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
quote:
They aren't 5770 years old and they aren't even 3000 years old - and you were talking about the oldest name and not the oldest 'life form groupings'.
Maybe you could try sticking to the point.
So - oldest name on record?

I already gave the dates of the DDS as being 2,300 years old - it still remains the earliest 'recording' of this issue; the retreat to fossils is the admission I am right. The writings also display a 'recorded' history of humanity, with credible dates and evidential data for 5770 years - and we have not seen a NAME older than 5770 Adam - why not?


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Message 177 of 182 (629309)
08-16-2011 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 8:31 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
and we have not seen a NAME older than 5770 Adam - why not?

Ok if you get to use aincent texts as fact so do i

Alulim he ruled for 28,800 years writings from 30th century BC or earlier

Alulim was the first king of Eridu, and the first king of Sumer, according to the Sumerian King List, presumably making him the first recorded king in the world. Enki, the god of Eridu, or his mortal son Adapa, are said to have brought civilization to Sumer at this point, or just shortly before.

This would make the first recorded name 33,800 years old trumping your Adam by a good 26 000 years happy now ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alulim

And this hasto be true cause its written down

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IamJoseph
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Message 178 of 182 (629310)
08-16-2011 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by frako
08-16-2011 8:36 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Do you mean the the composite half-man, half-fish counselor?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alulim

Conclusion: Adam is the oldest recorded name of a human on this planet, and it comes from Genesis, Just as Mount Ararat is first recorded in Genesis - in its correct geographical location.


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frako
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Message 179 of 182 (629314)
08-16-2011 8:59 PM
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08-16-2011 8:53 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
ok then pick anoter that is Human lol

lulim 8 sars (28,800 years) 30th century BC or earlier
Alalngar 10 sars (36,000 years)

"Then Eridug fell and the kingship was taken to Bad-tibira."

En-men-lu-ana 12 sars (43,200 years)
En-men-gal-ana 8 sars (28,800 years)
Dumuzid, the Shepherd "the shepherd" 10 sars (36,000 years)

"Then Bad-tibira fell and the kingship was taken to Larag."

En-sipad-zid-ana 8 sars (28,800 years)

"Then Larag fell and the kingship was taken to Zimbir."

En-men-dur-ana 5 sars and 5 ners (21,000 years)

"Then Zimbir fell and the kingship was taken to Shuruppag."

Ubara-Tutu 5 sars and 1 ner (18,600 years)

all way older then Adam

or Ngushur 1200 years after ca. 2900 BC

just a bit older then Adam

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Message 180 of 182 (629315)
08-16-2011 9:00 PM
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08-16-2011 8:59 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Throw your hands up and admit deeat. It will make you a wiser person.
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