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Message 38 of 353 (647220)
01-08-2012 5:48 PM
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01-08-2012 5:45 PM


Theology and Philosophy are useful tools to decide what questions to ask though.

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Message 40 of 353 (647223)
01-08-2012 5:59 PM
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01-08-2012 5:57 PM


Re: Why Science?
HUH?

It is a good tool to answer some questions related to the mechanics and engineering of reality.


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Message 42 of 353 (647225)
01-08-2012 6:09 PM
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01-08-2012 6:02 PM


Re: Why Science?
Science can tell us why chairs hold us off the floor but not where to sit; how our brain functions but not what to think.

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Message 44 of 353 (647235)
01-08-2012 7:06 PM
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01-08-2012 6:16 PM


Re: Why Science?
Only personal opinion can tell us where to sit or what to think although certain tools such as theology and philosophy can help us determine what questions are important to ask.

The problem is that the term "why" has so many possible nuances that I think this thread is pretty much doomed from the gitgo.


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Message 47 of 353 (647242)
01-08-2012 7:15 PM
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01-08-2012 7:13 PM


Re: Nuances.
No it is not a science problem.

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Message 49 of 353 (647245)
01-08-2012 7:30 PM
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01-08-2012 7:17 PM


Re: Nuances.
What is observed?

How can science observe why I think something?


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Message 51 of 353 (647251)
01-08-2012 8:50 PM
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01-08-2012 8:44 PM


Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
So you assert.

Science can investigate the mechanics but that is all, it is still not the "why".


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Message 53 of 353 (647259)
01-08-2012 9:39 PM
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01-08-2012 9:22 PM


Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
I have explained what I mean, why can't you understand it?

You can the investigate the mechanics but not the actual why. As I mentioned above that is the reason this thread is ultimately futile; the actual meaning of "why" is so totally ambiguous as to make this whole effort just irrelevant.

Why is as unrelated to the mechanism as art is to the medium used; as unrelated to the unique appreciation of a musical passage is to the mechanism of the medium used to play the passage.


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Message 55 of 353 (647262)
01-08-2012 9:55 PM
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01-08-2012 9:52 PM


Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
If it is not a question of the mechanics behind a phenomena, then what is it?

It is the phenomena itself.


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Message 57 of 353 (647271)
01-08-2012 10:15 PM
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01-08-2012 10:01 PM


Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
The mechanics of why the sky is blue is easy to explain and certainly within the province of science.

Why I like a blue sky is personal to me and the moment.


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Message 59 of 353 (647315)
01-09-2012 8:47 AM
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01-09-2012 8:45 AM


Re: Nuances.
That is still just the mechanics.

Sure we can study how a hammer is made, but the process is not the hammer.


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Message 62 of 353 (647327)
01-09-2012 9:46 AM
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01-09-2012 9:40 AM


Re: Nuances.
I'm suggesting that the causes are not the preference.

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Message 63 of 353 (647328)
01-09-2012 9:47 AM
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Re: Nuances.
I'm saying that no matter how much you study the hammer it is still not the hammer itself.

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Message 65 of 353 (647332)
01-09-2012 9:58 AM
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01-09-2012 9:49 AM


Re: Nuances.
Too funny.

You can investigate all you want but it will still not be the preference itself.

You can investigate the hammer all you want but it will still never be the hammer itself.

You can investigate love all you want but it will never be the experience itself.

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Message 73 of 353 (647345)
01-09-2012 11:10 AM
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01-09-2012 10:04 AM


Re: Nuances.
I think it is an important difference that should be noted.

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