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Rahvin
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Message 45 of 98 (666631)
06-29-2012 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Buzsaw
06-29-2012 8:59 AM


Re: Where does it Take us from Here?
It will ultimately lead to Canada's socialized medicine model, where healthcare can be very difficult to get due to the lack of MD's, and options which the US has afforded.
It's not difficult at all to receive treatment in Canada.
But even if it were, it's both comical and reprehensible that you would suggest that a wait time is somehow worse than letting poor people just not get treatment. Because that's the current US system. Resources are limited in the US just as much as anywhere else, there aren't an infinite supply of doctors anywhere. The US prioritizes treatment based on ability to pay, while Canada prioritizes treatment based on medical need.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 49 of 98 (666636)
06-29-2012 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Buzsaw
06-29-2012 9:40 AM


Re: Where does it Take us from Here?
Only a few do, typically when they have enough money to bypass everyone else in line.
This is of course different from when they have enough medical need to jump to the front.
Other cases include experimental new treatments that happen to only be available in the US. That's rather independent of the insurance debate.
But the incidence of border-crossings for healthcare is wildly overblown. How many in a year is "so many," Buz?

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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