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Dr Adequate
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Message 5 of 98 (666541)
06-28-2012 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
06-28-2012 12:17 PM


Re: Where does it Take us from Here?
Not very far but there is one encouraging feature. If the mandate is upheld as a reasonable extension of the Congress' Taxing powers then the next step to universal single payor health care support through taxation should also be reasonable.
Oh, that would always have been constitutional, only self-appointed judges on right-wing blogs (i.e. idiots) could deny it. (And they will, but that's for another day.)

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Message 10 of 98 (666548)
06-28-2012 1:15 PM


Fox News Gets It Wrong ... And Then Gets It Wrong
Bill Hemmer: We have breaking news here on the Fox News Channel, the individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional. This was a part of the law that was at the center of the oral arguments three months ago on this day when the justices hammered away at the White House and the administration's attorney, questioning the validity of the individual mandate and asking the following pointed question: if you can legislate healthcare, where can the federal government be stopped?
Banner on the screen: Supreme Court finds health care individual mandate unconstitutional
Megyn Kelly: Wait, we’re getting conflicting information. If you follow SCOTUSBlog.com ... the individual mandate is surviving as a tax. This is not confirmed by us yet, this is according to SCOTUSblog which also has the opinion. ... Everyone’s still trying to figure this out.
Hemmer: This is complicated ... we’re still trying to figure this out. Be cautious with us, we’re trying to do the best we can ...
Banner change: Supreme Court upholds parts and invalidates parts of health care law
Banner change: Supreme Court rules individual mandate will become a tax
They are now rumored to be looking for a liberal who can read the ruling to them.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 34 of 98 (666605)
06-29-2012 3:26 AM
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06-29-2012 1:39 AM


Re: Where does it Take us from Here?
Coming from a country with a long history of universal healthcare I am more than puzzled by the significance ot the issue. I know it is somewhat simplified but why are Americans not against socialized police forces or fire brigades?
Because there's no private police forces or fire brigades around to bribe politicians into opposing socialized police forces or fire brigades.

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Message 71 of 98 (667810)
07-12-2012 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by New Cat's Eye
07-12-2012 11:50 AM


Re: recent data on fleeing Canadians
But this is really two statistics rolled into one, because it includes those "sent out of country by the public health care system due to a lack of available resources or the fact that some procedures or equipment are not provided in their home jurisdiction".
That would actually be a point in favor of the Canadian system. If you needed a surgery that only the Japanese knew how to perform, wouldn't it be a good thing if your HMO paid to for you to go to Japan and have the surgery?
For bonus points, what are the odds that they'd do so?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 98 of 98 (668259)
07-19-2012 5:21 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by hooah212002
07-19-2012 1:30 AM


Re: The Doctors' Opinions
CS, I thought you knew better than to read Drudge.
Hey, it's not easy to find figures that support the preconceptions of conservatives. Sometimes the bottom of the barrel is the only place you can get 'em.

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