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Author | Topic: Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Good GRIEF! Nobody is saying they are the same thing but to deny that the scale was built on the physical strata with their fossil contents is so nuts I shouldn't even have to bother answering you.
Go look at any model of the time scale and see how it is tied to the Geologic Column layer by layer. Take some of those that represent the Grand Canyon for instance.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
The Geological time scale was not built on rock layers. It was built on time periods, not "rock layers, Faith.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: Go look at any model of the time scale and see how it is tied to the Geologic Column layer by layer. Nope, it's the opposite. Those hundreds of thousands of "layers" fit into the time periods they belong in.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Somehow Faith doesn't realise that the geological time scale doesn't represent "layers". The geological time scale represents time periods.
Not layers, Faith. It really, really is not a hard concept to grasp, Faith. Seems like you struggle with that basic concept.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
You have pretty much destroyed what was going to be a fun time with my family. I propose that YOU do the experiment and I'll do something else with my family. Exactly whom do you think will be hurt by your choice to not perform the experiment? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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You have pretty much destroyed what was going to be a fun time with my family. I propose that YOU do the experiment and I'll do something else with my family.
Exactly whom do you think will be hurt by your choice to not perform the experiment? She is grasping at any straw to avoid doing the experiment and facing even the tiniest bit of reality.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Faith, you badly misunderstand both diagrams.
The first shows how local formations relate to the geological timescale. The second is an idealisation which does not even attempt to show the complexities of the actual situation. The geological timescale is not built on world-wide strata. It was built by painstaking work correlating the local strata of different localities, primarily through geometric relationships. Applying the original version , developed in Europe, to the rocks of the Americas took considerable work - it was not a simple matter of matching strata found each side of the Atlantic.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nevertheless they ARE matched.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Matched as being about the same age, as determined by various methods. That's all.
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edge Member (Idle past 1735 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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Somehow Faith doesn't realise that the geological time scale doesn't represent "layers". The geological time scale represents time periods.
This is another one of those unnecessary arguments that accomplishes nothing, but we commonly run into with Faith. It appears to me that Faith has confused the geological time scale with the 'geological column'.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, HBD, this planned experiment has nothing to do with the diagrams you posted. It is about that road cut with the sloped lower left layer. And with regard to that, it IS about whether or not the strata themselves ever deposited on a slope (the STRATA, LAYERS, not whether sand forms slopes for pete's sake-- this is not to you but others on this thread). If it's possible then it's possible, I guess I'll find that out, and if it is then I'll have to give up my argument about that road cut.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As for the relation of the Geo Time Scale to the Geo Column I don't think that's on topic in this thread and don't know why it came up, and it just seems like one of those irrelevant academic points with no practical relation to anything being discussed. But it does relate to the other thread where the extent of various strata came up, and a practical point I'd make about that is that if all the strata really were formed in the Flood, then there's no more Geo Time Scale -- deny THAT relationship between them.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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OK. You accept that your idea of worldwide strata was an ignorant mistake?
You understand that the actual strata found in reality and their relationships are much, much more complicated than that? That "the" geological column (as opposed to local geological columns) is an idealised and generalised view synthesised and simplified from a huge mass of data and it took a whole lot of work to put it all together?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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edge, all YEC's writing on the subject deliberately confuse the geological time scale with local stratigraphic columns. They do it on purpose. To mislead.
The first figure Faith provided shows how the local stratigraphy at the Grand Canyon (which, in itself, is a simplified diagram) relates to the geological time scale. Oh, and Faith, the second one is a version showing the relationship between the different time periods. It shows, for example, that the Carboniferous Period occurred before the Permian Period. The Carboniferous is a time period, Faith. Not a layer. The Permian is a time period, Faith. Not a layer. It really is not hard to understand. Edited by Pressie, : Added last sentence
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