Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

That's as stpid and blasphemous as the Mormons idea God is human and begot Jesus in the normal human way. Also as stpid and blasphemous as the Muslim objection that God couldn't have a son because he's not human.

How pathetic you are. And so many others here.

Explaining things to you is a lost cause. I've heard a bazillion sermons and read hundreds of books explaining these things and I ought to know things about Christian theology you aren't in any position to know, but that doesn't stop you or anybody else here from thinking you are the experts and I know nothing.Homosexuality IS included in the commandment against adultery. I've heard it preached that way. But it's included in the extended comments on the law in the rest of the Pentateuch in any case.Yes, God is the one who ordained marriage between a man and a woman and it doesn't matter to Him who performs the ceremony. He never said only those marriages are valid that are done in His name, only that a man leave mother and father and cleave to his wife, and that the two become one flesh.We leave people's sins alone except for preaching against them. We may preach against Hindu idolatry as well as against homosexuality or gay marriage, but it's their business and not ours as long as we are not required to participate in it.There is really something wrong with your mind. Fallenness, for starters, of course. You ARE pathetic. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Explaining things to YOU is no doubt a lost cause as well, since I've explained this quite thoroughly already to very dull hearers. THERE IS NO COMMANDMENT VIOLATED BY ISSUING A MARRIAGE LICENCE FOR A HINDU WEDDING. IF IT WERE BEING ISSUED TO VALIDATE IDOLATRY IN SOME WAY THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A CASE, BUT IT ISN'T, IT'S FOR THE NORMAL WEDDING OF A MAN AND A WOMAN, PERIOD. WHO PERFORMS THE WEDDING HAS NEVER BEEN A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. IT'S IRRELEVANT.AND HOMOSEXUALITY, AGAIN, FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, IS NOT THE PROBLEM IN ITSELF, IT'S THAT GAY MARRIAGE SPECIFICALLY VIOLATES GOD'S MARRIAGE ORDINANCE WHICH IS ONLY FOR A MAN AND A WOMAN. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't know if you're nuts or just malicious as usual, but if I issue a license for a GAY MARRIAGE, I am in tacit agreement that gay marriage is acceptable, which I cannot allow because the Bible says it's a violation of God's law.In this case I am not participating in the ceremony itself or having anything to do with the ceremony, I'm just giving a license for a marriage that is illegitimate according to the Bible.But if I issue a license for a marriage of Hindus, or Mormons, or apostate Anglicans, or Jehovah's Witnesses or Shintoists or Buddhists or Catholics or atheists, etc etc etc, as long as the license is for one man and one woman there is no problem.Excuse me but you are a blithering idiot.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

If you read some commentaries you might not say such stupid things about the Bible.

A bit of sophistry there. The Nazi who herded the Jews to their death wasn't really doing it, the state of Germany was doing it.God knows the difference.I don't want to be complicit in the state's giving the license either.

The problem with giving the Lord's word on homosexuality is that people are already confused about what this problem is about. It's not about homosexuality as such, it's about marriage. We could give the scripture that shows God made marriage for a man and a woman but then we get into this huge flap about all the polygamy in the Old Testament which they claim must have been legitimate because there is nothing except the scripture about one man and one woman which they don't think is sufficient. It is for me, but nobody accepts anything I say here.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Oh I mind a great deal.

You should be bound and gagged so you can't tell lies.

Not bound tight enough, gag too loose. Yes I'm for the death penalty but it bothers me a great deal if innocent people are convicted. Even an idiot should have known that's what I meant. You don't think. Nor do far too many others here.

Yes.

Right, Christians should never have worked for Caesar because he might possibly make a law we can't obey. Do you know what you are talking about?You don't get any of this at all and I don't understand why you are all so obtuse. There is no problem issuing a license for any wedding of a man and a woman. There is no problem issuing a license for any of the marches and festivals you list although they are signs of the deterioration of society and I wish they didn't exist and as a matter of fact it would be a good thing if Christians opted out of that too.But Christians aren't being asked to AGREE with those events. We're just being asked to licence a particular expression of a sin, not to accept the redefinition of a whole category of human experience clearly defined in the Bible as between a man and a woman. Those events are just sins. For the bazillionth time we are not reacting to the sin of homosexuality or even the sin of gay marriage. WE ARE OBJECTING TO BEING MADE TO VALIDATE A TRAVESTY OF AN ANCIENT INSTITUTION THAT IS DEFINED IN THE BIBLE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.There was a Mormon cop in Utah who asked not to have to ride his motorcycle in the gay parade and he was disciplined in some way for that, I forget the outcome. Actually, now that all this is coming up I think we have been remiss in tolerating all this creepy stuff and probably should have been protesting all of it for years. But it's still not the same direct challenge to Biblical belief as being asked to validate gay marriage. You don't get it and won't get it but that's the truth.
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As long as "Caesar" was my beloved USA I would have had no problem whatever in working for my government. Yes I could swear such an oath. But not now. Perhaps I'm nave in that I would have gone on trusting my beloved USA as long as I did, that's probably true, but now the change is palpable and can't be ignored any more.You have no sense of how Christian All the Anglo countries were until very very recently, and even most of Europe in spite of their Catholic twistedness, to say what you say about how nobody would want any faith to rule. Tell you what, a "faith" IS ruling even now and gaining power every day, your "secular" law is really a religion, and you LIKE this "faith." I don't and it intends to strangle me and those who agree with me. I pray it won't succeed but if it does that will only be prophecy fulfilled and I know my Lord will win in the end. I'm sorry you are on the wrong side of this along with most others here. Really sorry about that. That's the saddest thing, that so many don't know good from evil any more.Yes things have changed so much that Christians can no longer be town clerk. No longer run a business that can be required to serve a gay marriage. Yes, this is what we've been expecting, the marginalization of the faith that built the west. Been expecting it as I've said and yet it's still a surprise, that people could be so captured by such evil. The attitude at EvC is often like a punch in the stomach. Sheer evil. Unbelievable.

No, there is no comfort in watching people destroy themselves and the best nation that ever existed. None whatever.Be careful what you wish for.