Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?

Nope. DNA paternity tests beat marriage certificates. Every time. Nope again. Physical actions leave physical evidence. Every time. Sophistry is not going to help you on this one.

Not everybody says that, I think that religion is a brain virus. I've found the reason why. The religious brain virus. Really? The jury is still out on that one. Better change it to: the Universe, as we know it, didn't always exist. But again, it's not strictly true, as there's no 'before' our current Universe.

Nope. Every piece of physical evidence beats sophistry. Every time.

Let us know when the three ICANT's reach consensus.

I take it that you write that scientists are the people who can't make their minds up.Hope you do know that it's a virtue and not a vice? In the industry I work in (economic geology) scientists change their minds all the time as new evidence comes along. It works. Very, very well. Getting closer to reality all the time.That's the way mining companies spend billions on exploration and mining. To change one's mind when new evidence comes along to get closer to reality is a virtue. Not a vice.

Around 50% of the income the organisation I work for do come from grants. I work in economic geology. Actually, the company I work for only has one agenda. To deliver the most reliable product to our customers. Mining companies, exploration companies, Governments, scientific organisations, chicken farmers, etc. Not for the organisation I work for. For us delivering the most reliable products is the most important thing. Then the income from mining companies and governments and chicken farmers, etc. just flows in and we get paid more! And we get more grants, too! True science, hey? It seems like you think that the science works like religions do...you read a favourite book and believe it must be true...science doesn't work like that. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

"No divine force was needed to explain why the Universe was formed."Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.You lost the argument the moment you tried an argument from authority, an authority who doesn't agree with you, ICANT.

Sorry, I couldn't help laughing at this one. Me too! I'd love to see Angelina Jolie being poofed into existence!Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

You can't be serious with this question. Or are you?

So why would your favourite Spooks exist rather than nothing?Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Nope. Scientific laws are descriptive. Not prescriptive. For some reason creationists never can spot the difference.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Or causes. Or not. Or the causes for the universe (if they existed then) don't exist anymore today. Or all the other millions of possibilities. Or logically didn't survive our current Universe. Two leading options? Trying a false dichotomy here? Or lots of Gods who died in the meantime. Or lots of non-Gods who died in the meantime. After all, the BB happened billions of years ago...for a scientist the false dilemma you presented is disturbing. Really? How so? I mean, nature exists today. Nature causes lots and lots of things, while any Spook or Spooks causing anything has never been observed.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Yes there is. There even isn't any empirical, verifiable evidence that Gods exist today. Or maybe some form of Gods existed billions of years ago, but died in the meantime. You like your false dichotomies, don't you?

Whether Caeser existed or not, we have lots and lots and lots of other empirical, verifiable evidence that the Romans invaded and ruled Gaul. Your attempt at drawing similarities fails miserably.We all know that, whether Caeser existed or not, he was not a Spook. And that the Roman empire ruled Gaul. And that Rome was a place and and they had an empire. And that DNA exists and existed in those days, too.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Nope. Not for me. To me belief is the opposite of choice.