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Message 931 of 960 (814999)
07-14-2017 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 925 by Faith
07-13-2017 4:45 PM


Re: ItRe: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
The Hillary forces, the Leftist machine, Soros etc., engineered it all, including getting Hillary off the hook from her truly egregious crimes.

Yeah, right. Decades of repetitive widely covered investigations, most of them leaky as a sieve, most of them run and staffed by Republicans who would love nothing more than to take her down.

Is there oxygen in the air on your planet?

Of course, to you, a few obvious felonies by Don Jr., Donald's son-in-law, and the then campaign manager... acknowledged as having happened by the participants... is no big deal, amirite?

IOIYAR!

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Message 932 of 960 (815007)
07-14-2017 12:18 PM
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07-14-2017 11:08 AM


Re: ItRe: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
As they say in Red State America: You can never investigate Benghazi too many times!

Patriotism is the excuse that countries give to themselves for their failures. – Stephen Marche

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Message 933 of 960 (815069)
07-15-2017 4:14 PM


It's all over now, baby blue
Russian-American lobbyist joined Trump’s son’s meeting, too

An eyewitness says :

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Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democrats, Akhmetshin said. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign, he said.

They received documents of value to their campaign from a foreign national. Slam-dunk violation of the Federal Election Act. Criminal felony.

Unless they can impeach Akhmetshin's testimony.

And if history is any guide there's more to come.

No worries, Faith, It's OK If You're A Republican.


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Message 934 of 960 (815079)
07-15-2017 6:58 PM
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07-15-2017 4:14 PM


Re: It's all over now, baby blue
Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democrats, Akhmetshin said.

Say what? If they really did have evidence of this kind of illegal activity, then it would have been a crime to not turn it over to the appropriate law enforcement agencies.


Patriotism is the excuse that countries give to themselves for their failures. – Stephen Marche

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Message 935 of 960 (815082)
07-15-2017 7:14 PM
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07-15-2017 6:58 PM


Re: It's all over now, baby blue
Say what? If they really did have evidence of this kind of illegal activity, then it would have been a crime to not turn it over to the appropriate law enforcement agencies.

Not necessarily although it does border on such an offense. Remaining silent does not trigger the federal misprision of felony statute. What is required is active concealment, which would require something like removing the information from some place that the feds would have found it. Maybe erasing some computer records while you are under investigation.

Further, there is the issue of whether the information is believed to be credible. Finally, is there any evidence that the information was actually used? Why wouldn't it get used?


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 936 of 960 (815089)
07-15-2017 9:03 PM
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03-04-2017 4:32 AM


Faith writes:

He also described the Leftist strategy as a version of Christianity, which I thought very interesting. There's nothing genuinely Christian about it, but Marx himself had experience of Liberal Christianity and made use of some of it in his ridiculous economic and social theories too. The concept of "Social Justice," which has recently been incorporated into some versions of Liberal Christianity, is a Marxist idea that was invented by a Jesuit. All these "Christian" concepts are really anti-Chrsitian. If Antichrist is coming soon, his religion will no doubt be a blend of Liberal Protestantism and Romanism. Mix it up with Islam and Leftist atheism and he'll have quite the gigantic totalitarian brew to rule the world with.  It's a perversion of the spirit of Christ.

Spot on, Faith!  As  a practising Catholic I can report that since the 1960's (post-Vatican II, to be exact), mainstream cultural Catholicism (as opposed to official Catholicism) has come to be dominated by cultural Marxism, which is preached from the pulpits under the guise of "social justice" or "the gospel in action" or some other misleading euphemism.  Notice that Pope Francis invited Loony Lefty, Bernie Sanders, to the Vatican in 2016 - that says it all about what passes for Catholicism these days, especially under this Jesuit Pope (the Jesuit order is 99.999% composed of barking-mad Marxists).

A lot of dozy Catholics have been deceived by this fake Catholicism, but not this little white duck.
John 10:4-5: "And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.  And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers

As I mentioned elsewhere, it's entirely possible that the Catholic Church will experience another schism - on one side of the split will be the Antichrist Marxists (aka liberals and progressives) led by a false Pope, and on the other side will be the traditionalists (the true Catholics), led by the true Pope.  The false Church will be granted the power of Satan and thereby gain ascendancy - but only for a short time, for it's destiny is the "lake of fire".  Scary stuff.

Phat recently asked why the Left is bad and the Right good. Well, without saying the Right is good, which no group of people can be, the Left is clearly bad because it uses underhanded totalitarian tactics against its opponents, and its goal is power; it has no respect for democracy or freedom of speech except their own, and they consider themselves morally superior to the point that they allow no right for the other side even to exist.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 : "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."

they (the Left) consider themselves morally superior

2 Corinthians 11:15 : "It is not surprising, then, if his (Satan) servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."

The Left pride themselves on being morally superior, yet note the evils they support!  I've noticed that many Lefties are also the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

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Dredge
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Message 937 of 960 (815090)
07-15-2017 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 926 by Faith
07-13-2017 4:47 PM



Faith writes:

Again I'm wishing the country could be geographically split so that we wouldn't have to have a civil war. Pick your location, move all the lefties there, let us have whatever half you don't want.


I wish all the Loony Lefties in Australia would relocate to Antarctica.
  
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Message 938 of 960 (815095)
07-15-2017 10:57 PM
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07-15-2017 9:17 PM


Great idea. There's probably room for all ours there too.
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Message 939 of 960 (815096)
07-15-2017 11:02 PM
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07-15-2017 9:03 PM


I'm really glad to see a practicing Catholic here who knows so much about the Bible, which is what it's all about. I can't accept your ideas of how Catholicism has supposedly gone bad in recent years, since of course the Reformation found it at fault in its essence long before Vatican II and Marxism and this really bad Jesuit Pope and all the rest of today's errors. Nevertheless your arguments are biblical and inspiring.

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Message 940 of 960 (815099)
07-15-2017 11:33 PM
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07-15-2017 11:02 PM



Faith writes:

I'm really glad to see a practicing Catholic here who knows so much about the Bible, which is what it's all about. I can't accept your ideas of how Catholicism has supposedly gone bad in recent years, since of course the Reformation found it at fault in its essence long before Vatican II and Marxism and this really bad Jesuit Pope and all the rest of today's errors. Nevertheless your arguments are biblical and inspiring.


Although I was brought up Catholic, I fell victim to anti-Catholic propaganda and became a Protestant-of-sorts after I left school. Then I discovered that (a) all Christian demoninations are inhabited by imperfect human beings who are prone to sin and making mistakes, (b) whichever Church is the true Church, you can be 100% certain that Satan will produce a never-ending stream of lies, calumny and nonsense about that Church in order to discredit it, (c) the true Church is destined to become very corrupt on the last days, yet it will survive, as "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.".
I eventually came to realize that the devil had deceived me - as millions of others have been - into believing that the Catholic Church was not the one, true Church that was founded by Jesus Christ.
Many good people have been tricked into believing that the Catholic Church is actually demonic from head to toe and from start to finish ... which is precisely what Satan himself wants them to believe.

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Message 941 of 960 (815103)
07-16-2017 3:16 AM
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07-15-2017 11:33 PM


Roman Church
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Then I discovered that (a) all Christian demoninations are (a)inhabited by imperfect human beings who are prone to sin and making mistakes, (b) whichever Church is the true Church, you can be 100% certain that Satan will produce a never-ending stream of lies, calumny and nonsense about that Church in order to discredit it,

I don't think any church as an assembly of people can be called "the true church" because the true Church is the people who possess the truth, and those exist in all denominations to some extent. There isn't a single institution that can be called the true Church though the term could apply to an aggregate of churches that hold to the true doctrines. In any case it certainly is not the RCC, not because of imperfect people but because of false doctrine.

(c) the true Church is destined to become very corrupt on the last days, yet it will survive, as "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.".

Yes, but you do seem to think this true Church is an institution and not just the body of believers in the truth?

I eventually came to realize that the devil had deceived me - as millions of others have been - into believing that the Catholic Church was not the one, true Church that was founded by Jesus Christ.

Well it wasn't, and there's tons of good reasons for that we could discuss, but it's off topic here. Would you be willing to continue this by PM or email?

Many good people have been tricked into believing that the Catholic Church is actually demonic from head to toe and from start to finish ... which is precisely what Satan himself wants them to believe.

There are no tricks, there's lots of good historical information besides basic Biblical doctrine that shows the RCC to be the false church and the papacy to be the Antichrist system. There are nevertheless good Christians within the RCC who follow the Bible rather than the false church doctrines, or at least follow it more, but I believe the scripture that says "Come out of her, My people" refers to them.

If you want we could have a separate thread on this or discuss it privately?

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Message 942 of 960 (815109)
07-16-2017 10:06 AM
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07-16-2017 3:16 AM


Re: Roman Church
Make a thread; I was raised Catholic and I'll participate.
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Message 943 of 960 (815110)
07-16-2017 10:37 AM


Make a thread. I was raised a Protestant and I will participate.

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Message 944 of 960 (815111)
07-16-2017 1:38 PM
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07-16-2017 10:06 AM


Re: Roman Church
I'm a dumb ass..OMG! I just figured out you're the Catholic Scientist! I've missed you and you're here all along! *face-palm*

Speaking of.. Where the hell is Dr Adequate, he change his name?

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Message 945 of 960 (815114)
07-16-2017 2:18 PM
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07-15-2017 9:03 PM


quote:
Ecclesiastes 10:2 : "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."

Notice it says "heart", not "head".
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