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Jabadaw
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Message 71 of 233 (104396)
04-30-2004 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Joe Meert
04-19-2004 3:52 PM


Re: Trixie and Walt Brown on Rocks
I ran across this thread and felt I needed to add my thoughts to the mix. Walt's ideas are a theory or at least a hypothesis, but one needs to remember that plate techtonics is also just a theory. Plate techtonics was not even taught when my father went to college. The steps of the scientific method are gauges of testing, likelihood, and reproducibility.
Ideas such as the laws of gravity are considered laws because they have been tested many times and the same results are found every time. An idea such as plate techtonics or Walt's ideas are supported by observation of evidence of past events, as truly testing something on a geologic scale is formidable at best. All theories are in flux as time passes. Atomic theory has progressed from the ideas of element, atoms, electrons, and so on into an all new level of sub atomic particles.
I'll close with the idea that just because an idea comes from the past does not mean it is wrong. We have lost much knowledge throughout history. A good example of this is the use of concrete. It was used in ancient rome, but the advanced knowledge of this was lost to man for hundreds of years. That is it for now. Thank you for your patience on a long post.

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Jabadaw
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Message 73 of 233 (105403)
05-04-2004 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by TrueCreation
05-01-2004 12:02 AM


Variable
As a computer programmer, anything that can't be tested and proven correct step by step is hard to accept. Neither theory can be tested that way. You state that plate tectonics explains observed features better, yet that's the same as saying "close enough". I doubt you'd want to be charged an amount that's "close enough" to the shown price of something when buying something.
I know that you learn to parrot back exactly what your instructors tell you, since anything other that what they believe to be true is considered wrong. But remember, that very few of history's great scientists are known for agreeing with their peers. It's thinking outside of the box that lets us take great steps.
Now, I'm not saying that you should believe every word that Walt Brown says. I'm just saying not to believe everything you read in a book. Take that leap, and if something doesn't fit but some parts might, try to find those missing links and complete the puzzle, even if it isn't what you were looking for in the first place.

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Jabadaw
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Message 75 of 233 (109823)
05-22-2004 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by crashfrog
05-05-2004 3:30 AM


Hey crashfrog,
I'm not saying that it has to be perfect. I just like facts that I can see with my own eyes and touch with my own hands. Drive down US 12 to the west for a bit. To your right you will find hills, lakes, and gravel deposits from the glaciers. To your left you will find very flat, black loam left when they melted and washed out to the south. I know this because I live in the flat lands and work feet away from one of the glacier created lakes. This I can see and touch. Can't say I've ever seen or touched a plate or fault. Hopefully a local example will help you understand what I'm talking about.

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Jabadaw
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Message 78 of 233 (110301)
05-25-2004 2:39 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by crashfrog
05-22-2004 4:54 AM


Just trying to be open minded. Something you have yet to grasp.

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