Meert / Brown Debate

I honestly don't think he understands what is going on. He does not recognize that it was Walt who first agreed that a third party would be allowed to preside over the debate and that it is THIS issue that Walt is being a weasel about.It has nothing to do with Joe's wanting to change thing and everything to do with Walt whining about Joe requesting a change that he could not deal with if the third party did not rule in his favor. I am pretty sure he does not even see this at all. He seems to be thinking it was all about Joe changing things.

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I wouldn't. One of the reason creationists stay creationists is due to their incapability to understand or even look for the whole story before making a decision. It seem to me just looking at his response that all he is doing is repeating what he has read from other Walt advocates on the web. The rhetoric is the same, the misinformation is the same. It looks pretty much like what we see in a ton of other cases of creationist X touting their position learned from creationist sites rather than from true investigation of the subject.The creationist algorithm is:
1. Discover some propaganda website or book.
2. Agree with some site or book and look for more info.
3. Come across a web forum.
4. Release your ideas as if they were new.
5. Become shocked at the resistance recieved.
6. Hardline the issue claiming bias whenever alternate sources are given.
7. Repeat your arguments rather than take scholarship over them.
8. Repeat your arguments again increasingly laced with derogative.
9. Leave in a storm of cursing and childish behavior.

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Meert was willing to debate either way! Walt was totally dishonest for claiming that no one wanted to debate him when there was Joe Meert sitting there saying I'll do it with or without the changes.The least Walt could have done was wait until the third party made their decision. Throwing his hands up in their air the moment the suggestion was even made is extremely childish on his part and exactly the kind of behavior I outlined in my other post.If he didn't want to admit the religious motivations for his work then fine, but he sure as heck should have been an adult about it and registered an appropriate counter proposal rather than running away and claiming victory!

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He is the one issuing the challenge for someone to debate him for goodness sake! To not even entertain the moderator's ruling is totally inappropriate and unethical! Not to mention that he is the one looking to put his hypothesis to the test!Joe didn't have to give up his time to indulge Walt and his pet theory. Here is a man willing to help you put your ideas through a ringer and he is treated like a charlatan. Then to have Walt place his un-peer-reviewed work up on a pedestal of unassailability! How much more of self-righteous mockery can you achieve? Walt might have more stock with me if he had at least waited to validate his position on the debate process. Maybe the moderator would have ruled that Joe was out of line bringing in religion. Then Walt would have been in the green with his position validated. Instead he choose the cowards way out by throwing up his hands and declaring victory all the way the bowels of the internet and society reserved for cranks.Then occasionally we have to deal with a product of his foolishness whenever someone comes on this board claiming that children like Walt are the martyr heroes of our time.This message has been edited by Jazzns, 06-14-2005 03:12 PM

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