Both or neither.

This message could have gone into quite a few different topics. I'll put it here

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That would be fine and dandy except where do you draw the line? If we open the door to one in a democratic nation we must allow for all viewpoints to be taught.

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I say we open the door only to those viewpoints that are begging to have their hypothesis/theory given a prominent and widespread public demolition.Let the science educators say "We're tired of the various Christian fundamentalist creationists weakening our science programs, and trying to insert their religious beliefs into science. Let's give this creationism the exposure it craves, and show it to be the baseless to downright ignorant thought process it is."So, young earth creationism gets into the public schools. The young earth, the flood and Noah's ark, the created kinds, etc. As a result it all will also get widespread exposure in the various news/information media. There will be widespread heated debate over it all.Young earth creationism will come out of this, looking totally stupid. The more mainstream Christian churches will publicly denounce creationism, to separate themselves from the fundamentalist nonsense. Evolution might end up being taught in the churches and Sunday schools.Creationists, watch out for what you want. You might just get it.Moose[This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 01-17-2004]

I thought the message this one is a reply to, was one of my best - Didn't get any response.Essentially, what I am proposing is that we push "creationism as pseudoscience" into the science classroom, to, in a way, give the creationists the exposure they crave.Then we'll see who's suing to get creationism removed from the science classroom.Moose

Just think of the public controversy that would be generated, if there was a grass-roots movement of scientists pushing to get various pseudo-science (as pseudo-science) into the public science education program.Part of a program to promote good science, is also to educate about bad science. If the fundementalists can push for creationism exposure in the schools, the science side can push for pseudo-science exposure in the schools.The practical reality is, the hub-bub over trying to push such an agenda could be as powerful as actually getting it in place.Moose[This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 01-19-2004]